Text 41565, 100 rader
Skriven 2006-10-19 05:45:54 av Jeff Smith (1:14/0)
  Kommentar till text 41544 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
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Hello Michiel.

19 Oct 06 09:29, you wrote to me:

 MV> Hello Jeff!

 MV> On Wednesday October 18 2006 22:26, you wrote to me:


 ST>>>> As I mentioned to Joe, my website "IS" my BBS.

 MV>>> Your saying so does not make it so.

 JS>>      And your constant denial doesn't make it not so. It's a fact
 JS>> Michiel that Shannon's BBS software is also an integrated website
 JS>> server.

 MV> That does not make the website a BBS.

 JS>>  That's the reality of the situation that you refuse to except.

 MV> Backup up by jurisdiction. Dutch courts have ruled that putting
 MV> something on a webite is a new incarnation that requires renewed
 MV> permission.


     What about the multitude of http accessible BBS's that are
not Dutch based? To use one of your default statements I could say
"Just because they say so doesn't make it so". Fidonet as you well
know is an international network. The interpretation of the law
depends on what country you are in. Would you be willing to abide
by a US law regarding the operation of your Dutch BBS?


     Didn't think so.


 ST>>>>  It's Wildcat Winserver --  and it's listed in the Snooze as
 ST>>>> being a valid and recognizable BBS package.

 MV>>> Opininons expressed are the opinion of the writer and the writer
 MV>>> only.

 JS>>     Then why not check with the software owner.

 MV> What good would that do?


     For you? Not a whole lot.


 JS>>  The question is rhetorical Michiel. I don't see you as able or
 JS>> willing to listen to any reasons or explainations that don't
 JS>> support your rather narrow view of things. In other words the
 JS>> world according to Michiel.

 MV> I could say exactly the same about you.


     You could but we both know that it wouldn't be the truth. I have
tried numerous times to talk, discuss, understand, reason with you. No
yelling, no name calling, no sarcasm (Maybe just a tad of sarcasm <g>).
You have made it clear that you do not want people to understand you.
It does make it easier to change your story on the fly if you can avoid
explaining or commiting yourself.


 MV> What your are doing is shooting the messenger.


     But you are not just the messenger. Passing the buck again?


 MV> I am *telling* you that the way FidoNews is distributed conflicts with
 MV> the copyright laws of many countries.


    And it will as long as those different countries have different
interpretations of the law. That is nothing new and your copyright
game will not change that in the least. All your copyright game will
do is piss people off and create further division in zones as well as
countries. As if there wasn't enough already. That is why I asked it
if you wanted to be part of the problem or part of a solution.


 MV> Shooting the messenger will not make that fact go away.


     Neither will your copyright game.


 MV> Cheers, Michiel

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Jeff

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