Text 42046, 75 rader
Skriven 2006-10-29 07:53:09 av Jeff Smith (1:14/0)
  Kommentar till text 42043 av FRANK SCHEIDT (1:123/140)
Ärende: Insults
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Hello FRANK.

29 Oct 06 08:27, you wrote to me:

 FS> -=> Quoting Jeff Smith to All <=-

 JS>> Well, lets see I have seen mention of Russians, Americans,
 JS>> Dutch, Europeans, Canadians, Scandinavians, USAians, Swedes,
 JS>> amoung others.

 JS>> While I think that most of the references and insults have been
 JS>> for more entertainment purposes than meant as a true heartfealt
 JS>> insult. What is the positive purpose here? I don't think anyone
 JS>> likes to see their country insulted either directly or by
 JS>> reference. Can't we have discussions and yes disagreements
 JS>> without the nessesity to reference one's nationality? I am sure
 JS>> some will respond with something like " Well... They do it. Why
 JS>> not talk to them?" I am raising this question to all. To those
 JS>> that I consider a friend as well as those that I may not. This is
 JS>> not an INSULT or FLAME echo. Lets please take steps to stop the
 JS>> needless insults or at least to take them to an echo where they
 JS>> are better suited. I realise that I am not the moderator here and
 JS>> that I carry no more authority than anyone else. I am simply
 JS>> asking that we all (Myself included) do our part to bring this
 JS>> echo back to where it should be. I have a few more thoughts but
 JS>> haven't the energy or feel well enough to articulate them
 JS>> sufficiently at the moment.

 FS> Yours is certainly a moderate approach for which you should be
 FS> commended.  However it might be instructive to see how *part* of
 FS> the insults/flames which are related to *me* came into being.  I
 FS> speak of only *my* participation:


     I figured a rather moderate centered approach was best given the
diverse attitudes present.

     Having the opinion that you do is not the problem as I see it. The
problem arises when we see the back and forth bashing of this country
or that in this echo. What I may think as an American is not nessesarally
what many or most other Americans may think. Just as what some Europeans
may think is not nessesarally what many or most Europeans may think or
believe. That is the basic principle that I have tried to convey to several
people here already. I am not voicing my own opinion on the matter to
avoid taking sides. Something that some are quick to throw in my face
at the first hint of me acting partial. Of course there are some that
seemingly *need* to think that I am partial and two-faced and feel the
need to follow me to other echos to try to convince others of their
opinion of me. Regardless of how I act or what I say here.

     That doesn't change the fact that I will continue to try to help get
this echo back to being a Fidonews echo.


     <Some deleted>

 FS> Even now, though, since the Europeans here have been thoroughly
 FS> cowed I'm willing to give up the "flames" which they fear so, and
 FS> indulge in civil discourse -- even with Mr. Blist and Mr.
 FS> Forestorm ...


     Thanks Frank.


 FS> ... "In time we hate that which we often fear." ÄÄ Shakespeare

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