Text 42095, 129 rader
Skriven 2006-10-31 12:20:00 av LEE LOFASO (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av ROY WITT
Ärende: JFK on Hitler
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Hello Roy,

>LL>Roy shows his own ignorance by his use of the non-word ya'll.

>RW>Here's what I call ingnorance.

>LL>This could be interesting...

>RW>It actually shows us that you don't know what you're talking about.

>LL>It is obvious that you are too ignorant to notice your own ignorance.

RW>Keep looking in that mirror of yours. Someday you'll get the picture.

I have a real mirror, which is not the same as mirrors which reflect
the opposite of what an individual looks like.  I had to make it myself,
given that I could find no real mirrors in stores anywhere.

[..]

>LL>Now for the fun part.

>RW>Yeah! :o)

>LL>Here is what the *real* Holy Quran (9:11) says -

>RW>Ummmm. You've misquoted 9:11 - A G A I N !

>LL>Quited quite correctly.  Translation by Mohammed Marmaduke Pickthall.

RW>Quoted incompletely, as noted below.

Quoted completely, and correctly, given that I have the particular Quran
translated by Pickthall.  Hard copy version.  Book form.  Not internet.

>LL>"But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due,
>LL>then are they your brethren in religion.  We detail Our revelations
>LL>for a people who have knowledge."

>RW>YUSUFALI: But (even so), if they repent, establish regular prayers,
>RW>and practise regular charity,- they are your brethren in Faith:
>RW>(thus) do We explain the Signs in detail, for those who understand.

>RW>PICKTHAL: But if they repent and establish worship and pay the
>RW>poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion. We detail Our
>RW>revelations for a people who have knowledge.

>RW>SHAKIR: But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate,
>RW>they are your brethren in faith; and We make the communications
>RW>clear for a people who know.

>LL>Not all translations of the Quran are good translations.

RW>Especially the one you've chosen.

Again, you show your own ignorance.

>LL>Pickthall's translation is one of the best, given that he was a
>LL>Muslim, was fluent in Arabic, and had an excellent command of the
>LL>English language.

RW>If so, then why did he misquote the real verses?

You really are truly ignorant.

The Quran is in Arabic.  Pickthall's translated it into English.
That is why it is known as Pickthall's translation of the Quran.

>LL>Most other translations are very poor, having been written by
>LL>non-Muslims, by those who knew little Arabic, or by those who had
>LL>little knowledge of the English language.

RW>Such as yourself.

I am not fluent in Arabic.
I am not Muslim.
That is why any translation of the Quran I might attempt (whether
into English or any other language) would be doomed to failure.

Pickthall was fluent in Arabic, and in English, as well as being
a Muslim.  That is why Pickthall's translation is considered to be
an excellent translation.  Especially by Muslims and scholars.

>LL>BTW, you might want to learn how to properly spell Pickthall's name.

RW>I couldn't care less..

Again, you show your own ignorance.

>LL>As you can plainly see, the message I posted in 2003 was intended
>LL>to see how many folks were ignorant of the Quran and what it says.

>RW>Actually, it was a sign of your stupidity. Misquoting isn't a very
>RW>honest practice, especially among the less educated folks like you.

>LL>My quote of the Quran was correct, as noted above.  It was your
>LL>ignorance of the Quran which is showing.

RW>You quote of the Quran is very incorrect...

It is quite correct.

>LL>By revealing your ignorance, you have proven yourself to be a fool.
>LL>:)

>RW>Look real close in that mirror...it's your image that look like the
>RW>fool, not only that but a very stupid fool...

>LL>Apparently you have never looked in a real mirror.  If you had, it
>LL>probably would have scared you to death.

RW>Actually, I admire myself many times a day, as I'm so handsome.

You are delusional.

>LL>And then we would have missed all the fun posts you have made in this
>LL>forum.  ;)

RW>Are you a high yeller? The most ugly species ever to leave the loins of
RW>the frogs...

This frog is a prince.

--Lee


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