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Skriven 2006-11-14 22:38:00 av bob klahn (1:275/311)
     Kommentar till en text av shannon talley
Ärende: Ego Centrism.
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 st> Hi Bob,

>> st> Actually Bob, I've been to many middle eastern countries,
>> st> spent time there, talked with the locals, stayed in local
>> st> houses & visited communities on 'outskirts'.  Afghanistan,
>> st> Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi, and more moderate ME countries too.

>> Then why don't you know that the French are backing us in
>> Afghanistan? Why don't you know that the French didn't owe us
>> one bit of support in Iraq?

 st> Please post my comment that indicates I denied this Bob. If
 st> you would please go back and read my posts again, you'll
 st> see that I never denied any of this.

 If that's how you see it, your comments made no sense.

>> Which has what to do with your commentary on the French? And how
>> many terrorists did you meet in Iraq?

 st> Bob, I explained my commentary on the French on two
 st> occasions.  If you can't read, that's your fault.  I met

 I read your explanation. It makes no sense, but I read it. What
 you wrote makes zero sense as an explanation. Esp considering
 how what you wrote fits in so well with those who bash anyone
 who is not toeing the Bush line 100%.

 st> more Radical Islamics in my travels than you have (have you
 st> ever even met "1" ??)  Yes, I've personally met them in
 st> ways that aren't suitable for this forum.

 Then why can't you tell them from non-radical Muslims? Is this a
 case of the cop who thinks everyone is a crook since he spends
 so much time dealing with crooks?

>> st>  And you call "me" misinformed....?
>> It appears so. You have traveled in Middle Eastern Muslim
>> countries, and fail to distinguish between them and the majority
>> of the Islamic world. You didn't say Arabs, you said Muslims.

 st> You are right, I did say Muslims.  The Arabs are as
 st> different as the Persians Bob who are as different as the
 st> Sunni's who are as different as the Shia, and so on...
 st> It's obvious you are simply repeating ramblings propagated
 st> by the popular media outlets.

 You do realize that means nothing also, don't you? How about
 how Arabs differ from Malaysians, who differ from Indians, who
 differ from South Africans, who differ from Chinese, who differ
 from Turks? All you did was compare Middle Eastern Muslims.

>> If *YOUR* conversation is informed, tell me where my facts and
>> figures are wrong. You want to claim superior knowledge, but
>> can't show where I am wrong.

 st> I can lead a horse to water but I can't make him drink.

 IOW, I was not wrong, thanks.

>> The part you left out makes it hard to see it as a commentary on
>> WW2.

 st> Sorry the joke was over your head Bob, or is it that you
 st> haven't a sense of humor?  Either way, I'll refrain from
 st> trying to lighten the mood with a joke during our
 st> conversations from now on.

 Ah, so you hold the John Kerry chair in political humor for
 Fido? IOW, you forget, if a joke has to be explained it failed.

>> I don't know where you get your numbers, I use the ones from the
>> Statistical Abstract of the United States, Comparative
>> International statistics section.

 st> Again -- the numbers vary greatly.  I used a Saudi source,
 st> they are -- in fact 'over there'....  I figured they would
 st> be slightly more accurate than a U.S. study.

 I figure the Saudis are more likely to puff up the figures, to
 their advantage. The US census people are more likely to try to
 be accurate.

>> I picked apart most of what you said.

 st> Nope, you picked my nose -- but that was about it.  Perhaps
 st> after you have become more educated on this subject we can
 st> converse more.

 Perhaps when you become less arrogant on the subject we can
 converse more. Come off it, you deleted the entire beginning
 of my msg because you had no answer to it.

>> Aryan Nation. You painted an entire religion with the brush
>> that covered the worst of the group. And you did it with no
>> distinction between Arabs, Asians, or Sub Saharan Africans.

 st> That's what you wanted to read Bob, that wasn't what I
 st> wrote.  You misquoted me, and that pretty much ends any
 st> possibility of future conversations right there.

 No, I didn't misquote you, I didn't quote you other than the
 fido quotes, I interpreted what you said in a very
 straightforward way. And again, in your expansion on it you
 still failed to even mention that there are Asian and
 sub-saharan Muslims. Who, BTW, are far more numerous than Arabs.

>> How is it making fun of your religion? Oh, and you didn't state
>> your specific religion. You just said Christian. Is that generic

 st> Yes I did... Again -- read my post... I answered your

 You answered nothing. You said Evangelical Christian. Now I have
 no idea what sort of Evangelical Christan you are. And that does
 make a big difference.

 I do know that willingness to compromise the Christian faith for
 oil from Saudi Arabia does not fit the beliefs of any of the
 evangelical Christians I know.

 st> questions, and you still failed to sell me this 'radical
 st> christian' movement BS.

 You failed to even think about it. Like I said, Aryan nation,
 Christian identity. More in another msg.

 st>      It's obvious you want to argue and
 st> not have a discussion.  I haven't the time to have an

 Uh... does that mean the only discussion you find acceptable is
 one where everybody sings from the same hymn book? Sorry, I do
 not accept your statements as the truth of God, and do not feel
 obligated to believe them.

 Yes, I like a good arguement. Are you capable of giving one?

 st> endless argument with someone who is going to misquote me
 st> to suit a reply for a liberal objective, so "good day"...

 Oh, and a good Christian knows it's a sin to lie. You may not
 agree with my interpretation of what you said, but I did not
 misquote you.

BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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