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Skriven 2006-11-21 16:58:09 av Herman Neut (2:280/1141)
  Kommentar till text 42978 av Bob Ackley (1:2905/3)
Ärende: JFK on Hitler
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Hi Bob,


   Quoting: Bob Ackley to Herman Neut
 Date/Time: 20-Nov-06 / 06:20:50
   Subject: JFK on Hitler

 BA> Replying to a message of Herman Neut to Jeff Smith:

I know exactly what you mean, Bob.
We have "armchair generals too"

Yesterday night there was a real live documentation on our national tv
about our troops in Afghanistan. In particular about the NL special forces
( the "Commando Troops" aka "Green Berets" or "Groene Baretten")
Very good trained, equiped, and motivated. Good cooperation with NL air
force and US troops and the Afghanistan national police forces.
But every time those "Commando's" got a change to fire, they needed
permission from the "armchair general" and the politicans in The Hague,
even when the police falled into a Talliban ambush. Without approval, those
Commando's only might fire , after being under fire. Good motivation for
the NL spotters and snipers?

Sometimes the commando's simulated a malfunction(s) with their vehicles to
let the Taliban feel themselves in a "strong position" and would fire the
first shot. That gives the commando's "free fire" without permission from
The Hague. Sad but true...

BTW: while under attack in an ambush, the camera crew stayed filming, until
the tape was "full". Then the "workless" cameramen took a rifle and started
to fire at the Taliban, helping his "friends".
That incident almost did cause "political problems" The video docu almost
was forbidden for TV transmission. But parliament decided "let that docu
be shown now on tv".

 JS>>> Depends on what constitutes a "Victory". In Vietnam I think the
 JS>>> cost would have been less if the politicians had let the
 JS>>> military do what they were trained to do. Instead of making
 JS>>> military decisions using a political agenda.

 HN>> Isn't that inherent to a "democracy" ?

 BA> No.  When the civilian leadership needs the military to do
 BA> something, it should tell the military to do it and get the h*ll
 BA> out of the way.  That's basically what Bush I did in Iraq in 1991.

 BA> Note that Nixon's mining of Hanoi's harbors and bombing of supply
 BA> dumps in the Red River delta was one of the reasons they cried
 BA> uncle in 1973.  That *should* have been done in 1964. It's
 BA> virtually impossible to impede a distributed supply line that is
 BA> heavily camouflaged and in jungle terrain to boot, you have to
 BA> cork the line at its source - Haiphong harbor, which is exactly
 BA> what Nixon did in 1972.  Johnson's incremental bombing 'strategy'
 BA> merely allowed the enemy to plan for and get used to it.

Best Regards,
      Herman Neut

 e-mail: h.neutnospam@hccnet.nl

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