Text 43378, 97 rader
Skriven 2006-11-28 13:49:01 av Jeff Smith (1:14/0)
  Kommentar till text 43357 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
Ärende: Insults
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Hello Björn.

28 Nov 06 15:13, you wrote to me:


 st>>> He is stating that if one has a god, then he hates them because
 st>>> one hides behind their god.


 JS>>      As I read his statement (Bjorn, please correct me if I am
 JS>> wrong) he is saying that he hates those that hide behind their
 JS>> religion to justify their actions. I don't see God or whatever
 JS>> deity you prefer making people do anything. People decide to do
 JS>> what they do. Then claim that the devil made them do it.

 BF> Yes, that's a good interpretation of what I've said.

 st>>> He's stated many times here in this echo that he dislikes those
 st>>> who talk, write or preach about god.

 JS>>      This much is true.

 BF> No, it isn't.

     It is to the extent that you don't like people that talk, or preach
about their religion.

 BF> You can live with any God you want but don't try to make me believe in
 BF> yours.

     This is true and I don't disagree with you on that point.


 JS>> And people are free to feel that way too. But that
 JS>> doesn't mean that others can't or shouldn't talk about religion.
 JS>> No matter what or how much one does something there will be
 JS>> people that like, don't care, or dislike it.

 BF> So long as the discussion is honest and that one live by the rules
 BF> they preach I haven't a problem with it but when someone is dishonest
 BF> and put a patronizing and biased opinion about me on a anonymous
 BF> webpage you bet I will fight back. That's not how to be an honest
 BF> Christian but it shows how the regligion can be used to hide behind
 BF> and Shannon have proven my example.

     I don't think Shannon's Christianity is the issue here. He as we all
are able to act regardless of what religion we claim to believe in. None
of us lives by our religion's rules. We can only claim to do our best.

 st>>>  If one is a Christian, then he (and
 st>>> the other Bjorn) Chastise them here in this echo for having a
 st>>> religion (you've seen the conversations).  So, by saying one is
 st>>> a Christian (as I have), then he accuses me of "Hiding behind my
 st>>> god" -- which isn't physically possible. I'm not the best
 st>>> Christian, and as a matter of fact, I'm defunked in many aspects
 st>>> because I tend to cuss too much -- drink a little, and I'm
 st>>> divorced.


 JS>>      I don't consider myself a Christian as such. I believe in
 JS>> the existence of a higher being. But I don't go to church much at
 JS>> all. I don't need a church to do my praying. I tend to drink
 JS>> occasionally and I say damn or hell occasionally. <g> If people
 JS>> can accept that then fine. Otherwise it is their problem and not
 JS>> mine. In fact I dislike people that try to push their religious
 JS>> beliefs onto me. Which means yes Michiel, while I may respect
 JS>> their religious beliefs I am not crazy about Jehovah Witness's
 JS>> pushy manner either.

 BF> There you and I are almost at the same page. I would like to believe
 BF> at a higher being but with the world looking the way it does, that's a
 BF> VERY tough thing to do.

     Some say that there currently are signs that were prophesized ages ago
of the impending end of man. Ooops.... Almost got religious there. <g>


 st>>> Realizing this, he still continues to accuse me of "hiding
 st>>> behind my god". Therefore, since he accuses all Christians of
 st>>> hiding behind their god, and has stated he hates all Christians
 st>>> who hide behind their god, then the logical conclusion is that
 st>>> he hates all Christians.  Don't read between the lines, "read
 st>>> the lines he wrote".

 BF> To restore any of your credibility Shannon. Remove that garbage on
 BF> your website and do what you want every honest person to do, apologize
 BF> or I will follow your every single post in here and tell everyone what
 BF> a coward you are and I will make a contribution to the Snooze for
 BF> everyone else to read about how you are behaving. Now it's up to YOU.

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Jeff

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