Text 43412, 112 rader
Skriven 2006-11-29 09:07:24 av Janis Kracht (1:261/38)
  Kommentar till text 43399 av Herman Neut (2:280/1141)
Ärende: Re: Insults
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Hi Herman,

> Quoting: Janis Kracht to shannon talley
> Date/Time: 28-Nov-06 / 17:28:26
> Subject: Re: Insults


> I can hardly believe, that "a non native English speaker like me" can
> perfect read/interprete what you are writing, while some "native English
> speakers" CAN not.
> Sometimes I think it's not a questiom of "to can", but "to want".

It's obvious by now that is the case.  But I'm hoping Shannon takes Bjorn's
idea as a serious end to this.

>> Hi Shannon,

>> [...]
>>> If you are going to teach English Grammer, then learn the language.

>> LOL

>>> Good gosh....  They mean the same Janis!  One is used in
>>> definitions for the other.

>> You need to investigate modifiers, Shannon... that's where your
>> English failed you. Badly

>>>>> He states that if one hides behind their god to justify their
>>>>> means, then "yes", he hates them.
>>>> Don't you agree with that statement you just made?  Don't you
>>>> agree that those who used God throughout the centuries to justify
>>>> the wiping out of civilizations and people (as in the examples in
>>>> my last message, such as the Holocaust, and the Inquisition) were
>>>> wrong to do so?

>>> He isn't talking about that Janis.  He never mentioned the actions
>>> of this past century or other centuries -- not once in that
>>> message.

>> You are being deliberately obtuse.  It's obvious you are stuck on
>> not seeing things for what they are.  I know he didn't mention
>> those events in history, he didn't NEED to.  It's obvious to
>> anyone who knows the facts of those events that Bjorn would label
>> them the same way.. "people hiding behind their god", and that he
>> hates those who would do such things. _ Any_ human being would
>> (should) feel the same way

>>> He is accusing "ME" of hiding behind god, and I have never hidden
>>> behind god (you and he still haven't given me an example).

>> Making such a big point in calling yourself a Christian while you
>> write things such as your wrote on your page regarding this
>> discussion, (that famous 2nd pararaph), is "hiding behind your
>> god".  It's hiding behind your god because you insist that no one
>> should question your motives, after all "You are a Christion!"
>> <geez

>> You want no one to question your "interpretation" of this
>> discussion. Now do you get it

>>> He is an atheist who hates Christians and Jews.  He's stated this
>>> in public -- it's that simple.

>> I think you are making this much bigger than Bjorn ever did.

>>> The fact is, we live in such a politically correct society today
>>> that it's unpopular to be a Jew or a Christian.  Nobody seems to be
>>> condemning the atheists, only those who believe in god.  So, if one
>>> believes  in god and makes it known they are a Jew or a Christian
>>> (as I have) then he labels them a fanatic who hides behind their
>>> god to justify their actions.

>> I haven't seen him do that at all. He doesn't label Christians as
>> fanatics, he does though call you one since you refuse to admit
>> your mistake and have blasted him publically on your page

>>> Ask him to show what actions I've done to deserve the label of one
>>> who hides behind their god and deserve the hatred that he befalls
>>> on all the Jews and Christians who hide behind their god.

>> That page SURE sticks out pretty badly.

>>> Think Back over this past year or two Janis...  You remember the
>>> messages the other Bjorn wrote about those who serve our country?

>> Is that what this is about?  Bjorn Felten may have said negative
>> things about those who are in our nation's service (and more), but
>> that is not _this_ Bjorn, and it has nothing to do with Bjorn's
>> statement that you misrepresented on your home page

>>> The fact is, he calls them fanatics as well.  Anyone who doesn't
>>> fit their paradigm are fanatics Janis.....   They live in a
>>> different society than we do where being religious isn't popular or
>>> necessarily accepted as well as being silent or being an atheist.

>> Again, this has nothing to do with what you posted on your page.

>> You are happy to lump Bjorn in with all the negativity you feel in
>> this echo, and that's sad


> IMHO: Shannon suffers a "biased mind". A 'prepossession disease' ? ;-)

Not sure what his problem is right now :(  Too many have explained his faulty
logic to to him, too many have explained his faulty interpretation..

Take care,
Janis

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