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Skriven 2006-11-30 10:22:00 av bob klahn (1:275/311)
     Kommentar till en text av FRANK SCHEIDT
Ärende: Ignorance is Bliss
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 BK>>> People with black ancestry are commonly considered black.

 FS>> What gives you *that* idea?  If you believe that, then you
 FS>> *must* also accept that people with white ancestry are
 FS>> commonly considered white.

 BK>> If you believe that you must have grown up in some other
 BK>> country.

 FS> In a different one than that in which *you* grew up,
 FS> certainly. *I* was born and reared in the good ol' USA.
 FS> What foreign country were *you* brought up in?

 Then you know most people in this country classify anyone whith
 black ancestry as black, regardless of their white ancestry.
 That's real world, not ivory tower theory.

 FS>>    If mixed ancestry is involved
 FS>> then the determination of "race" is based on the highest
 FS>> percentage.

 BK>> In an ivory tower fantasy, maybe. In the real world USA, not
 BK>> hardly.

 FS> No fantasy, Bob.  Percentages determine a lot of situations.

 On paper, maybe, not in the real world.

 Notice, we are not talking about law or logic or religion, but
 the real world perception. Ask any person with visible black
 charactistics how he or she is perceived by others, and you will
 get an overwhelming response of "as black". This is real world
 observation, not theory. As a scientist you should realize, what
 you see happen outweighs any theory you might have as to what
 should happen.

 FS>>   For example the ancestry of the white golfer,
 FS>> Tiger Woods, is 50% White, 25% Asiatic and 25% Black.  He's
 FS>> considered white.

 FS> See!!??!

 BK>> Maybe by people playing "Let's pretend". Not in the real world
 BK>> USA.

 FS> Bob, get real ... *please*!  There are a lot of foreigners
 FS> in this echo, and they aren't the brightest people on
 FS> earth.  Some of them might believe you!

 Either you know it's true, or you are living along the river in
 Egypt.

 BK>>> Black
 BK>>> people are more aware of racism than you are. Lee has black
 BK>>> ancestry, a fact he has posted in Fido.

 FS>> Racism is mainly *practiced* by blacks.  In general there
 FS>> is very little racism in the US these days.

 BK>> Frank, that's on a level of absurdity hard to conceive of.

 FS> OK, I'll admit, you're right -- I had forgotten about the
 FS> racist Affirmative Action laws.  Thanks for reminding me.

 You mean the laws that gave 90% of their benefit to whites?

 Try a little scientific attitude. Do an experiment. Talk to
 black people. It might enlighten you.

 Or, better yet, listen to them.


BOB KLAHN bob.klahn@sev.org   http://home.toltbbs.com/bobklahn

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