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Skriven 2006-12-12 11:07:48 av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
  Kommentar till text 43939 av shannon talley (1:275/311)
Ärende: The means - means what?
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11 Dec 06 19:39, shannon talley wrote to Roy Witt:

 st> Hi Roy,

 >> "I hate every, Jew, Muslim, Christian or wharever that uses his God to
 >> hide behind to justify their own means." - Bjorn Forsstrom - 2006
 >> Let's analyze that thinking.

 st> How long did you contemplate this before putting to print?

I put it together in about 5 minutes yesterday, after finishing my session
here.

 st> Very well stated... :)

Thanks.

 >> "the ends justify the means" is a phrase encompassing two beliefs:
 >>
 >>   1. Morally wrong actions are sometimes necessary to achieve morally
 >>      right outcomes.
 >>
 >>   2. Actions can only be considered morally right or wrong by virtue
 >> of
 >>      the morality of the outcome.
 >>
 >> Conversely, people who believe that the consequences of an immoral
 >> action are greater than those of the expected outcome will often say
 >> that the ends do not justify the means.
 >>
 >> So it seems, morality is the basis for the means. Morality is defined
 >> as a set of particular moral principles or rules of conduct. Each of
 >> the above mentioned religions in the world have a set of moral
 >> principles in which those who practice religion are to try to conduct
 >> their lives.
 >>
 >> Note that I used the word, practice in the above. Practice doesn't
 >> imply perfection. Indeed no person is perfect in their religious
 >> behavior, as each of those religions predicts they won't be.
 >>
 >> Only an atheist would overlook that part and call someone who's trying
 >> his best to follow his religion a coward, because he thinks they're
 >> hiding behind their religion. While on the contrary, they're trying to
 >> live up to what their religion calls a morality behooving a religious
 >> person.
 >>
 >> So, what does it mean to hate a religious person who is trying to
 >> practice his religion, but like everyone else, fails from time to
 >> time?
 >>
 >> Is he also a coward because he calls someone's religious morality
 >> 'hiding behind their religion', but has no excuse for himself?
 >>
 >> Where is his morality and what does it consist of?  Perhaps you say he
 >> doesn't have or need any.
 >>
 >> I say, he's no different than the people he chastises for hiding
 >> behind their god. Perhaps he needs a lesson in morality.
 >>
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