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Text 4424, 56 rader
Skriven 2004-12-28 11:52:54 av Thom LaCosta (1:261/1352.0)
   Kommentar till text 4401 av Matt Bedynek (1:106/1)
Ärende: Pee-Four
================
Matt Bedynek wrote in a message to Thom LaCosta:

 MB> Hello Thom.

 MB> 27 Dec 04 09:40, you wrote to me:

 MB>> rarely subscribe to the strict views other do.  I would be in
 MB>> favor of allowing points and cosysops to particpate here and even
 MB>> allowing them a vote but that would go just about as far as
 MB>> anything else positive that has ever been laid upon the table.

 TL> Points and co-sysops voting?  Heck, why not go one step further and
 TL> simply have each BBS sysop submit a list of users to allow them to
 TL> vote?  Something about points and co-sysops voting just doesn't seem
 TL> correct.

 MB> You have not been keeping up.  Node numbers are easy to get these
 MB> days in Z1. You can get listed outside your region and do not even
 MB> need to run a mailer.  I know of one such node who got listed
 MB> merely to gain entry to stir the pot. 

But if it's as easy as you say...why do you say that non-listed sysops be
allowed to vote?  Either use your gratuitous bomb and say that they should be
listed, or not use it and campaign for non-sysops being allowed to vote.

 TL> Let's see, the current moderator of FN_SYSOP won't face an election,
 TL> which is consistent with his original platform that yearly elections
 TL> would not be held, and the current moderator of this echo wouldn't
 TL> update the listing per the Echolist requirements...now, unless I'm
 TL> mistaken, he's not in Zone1...so the actions seem to stem from outside
 TL> of Zone 1

 MB> A moderator is not required to use your list, Thom.  That does not
 MB> mean he or she is no longer the moderator.  It simply means they
 MB> have made a choice.  You said it yourself, the echolist is not an
 MB> offical part of Fidonet. 

Yep....and that has NOTHING to do with the current moderator's policy of not
having yearly elections....but it seems you'd rather poke at the echolist than
address the issue of moderatorship of FN_SYSOP.

 MB>> Those who come up with solutions are
 MB>> presenting solutions to problems they are the creators of.

 TL> Yes, I would say that releasing the password to an echolisting in a
 TL> public forum is a problem that was created.

 MB> See it how you wish.

Ah, if you can't address the problem, you toss it off....

cya,
thom
http://www.tlchost.net/echolist/ 
--- GEcho 1.20/Pro
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