Text 44366, 55 rader
Skriven 2006-12-21 20:15:01 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
  Kommentar till text 44333 av Matt Bedynek (1:106/1)
Ärende: Kindergarten
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Hello Matt!

On Thursday December 21 2006 09:45, you wrote to Ward Dossche:

 WD>> The campaign against Bjorn Felten has got nothing to do with his
 WD>> qualities as moderator ... it's a vendetta, no more no less, and
 WD>> it all started when he did not lose a certain moderator-election
 WD>> which he was supposed to lose.

 MB> Not too much different than the vendetta that took place in fn_sysop
 MB> when a certain number of users were moderated by what they viewed as a
 MB> less than desirable moderator.

The difference was that the moderator in the first event attempted to ban a
user and failed. What eventually led to his forced resignation. In the second
event the moderator refuses to attempt to moderator by force.

 MB>  While I can see and respect Bjorn's position; I cannot help but see
 MB> the parallelism between this scenario and the one which took place in
 MB> fn_sysop serveral years ago.

The parallel is that users revolt against the moderator.

 MB> Ironically, you were part of that movement as some of the same people
 MB> attacking Bjorn today.  I saw both acts as wrong because I see no
 MB> difference between the scenarios.  Are you proud of what you helped
 MB> create?

Now you make it look like there was a precendent set or something like that.
Well, maybe it was for Z1, but here in Z2 users defying moderators is much
older. In fact I remember a dissident sysop named Paul Dickie who managed to
circumvent feed cuts by the the then ZC and moderator of ENET.SYSOP, Ron Dwight
over and over again. And that was over a decade ago when Fido over IP was way
out of reach of the grunt sysop. Already then it was a fact that it is very
difficult if not impossible to ban a sufficiently decided and knowledgible
user.

Now that Fido has almost become a sysop only network and almost everyone jhas
the ability to lay links all across the globe at no or very lityle cost, it has
become even more a fact that feed cuts are impossible to enforce. FdiO over IP
has freed us from the dicator distributors, but the fli side of the medal is
that moderation by rattling the sword as a deterrent is no longer possible.

What happened a couple of years ago in FN_SYSOP was just a notch in the chain
of events that would have come to the same end anyway. We shak just have to
learn to live with the fact that moderation old style has come to an end.

Those who preach "respect" are daydreaming. There will never be a moderator in
an echo like this that is universally repected.


Cheers, Michiel

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