Text 44686, 68 rader
Skriven 2006-12-23 21:34:24 av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
  Kommentar till text 44538 av Matt Bedynek (1:106/1)
Ärende: The moderator here????
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22 Dec 06 22:18, Matt Bedynek wrote to Roy Witt:

 MB> Hello Roy.

 MB> 21 Dec 06 13:40, you wrote to me:

 RW>> Her statement flies in the face of reality. Two people tried to
 RW>> start an alternative elist, but she wouldn't give them the status of
 RW>> a nodelisting without proof of users. Neither could compete with a
 RW>> Z1C sanctioned elist and died trying.

 MB> I cannot recall the events surrounding this... perhaps it happened
 MB> while I was absent, but if true, one must ask how can you get users
 MB> without some level of recognition..

That recognition would have to come on an equal playing field with the
already existing elist to be recognized. They were between a rock and
a hard place because if your elist isn't listed in the nodelist, your list
isn't 'sanctioned' by the powers that be.

 MB>>> In fact, I think if Thom closed shop there would not be anyone
 MB>>> interested in replacing the e-list.

 RW>> I stopped using it because it's no longer an honestly run entity.
 RW>> Thom himself lists echoes in his own name when the echo TAG suites
 RW>> him. i.e. the HAM elisting was hijacked by Thom when the elisting
 RW>> expired. He's not the moderator and never has been.

 MB> Use the echolist as a description repository for echoes; that is it.
 MB> I've seen hubs use the excuse for arbitrary support of it saying
 MB> things like "I don't have time to resolve a dispute by reading an
 MB> echo". Hogwash... For all the years I have moved mail, I have handled
 MB> less than half a dozen feed cuts... In fact, I bet its less than that
 MB> since I can only remember a few cases where I had to get involved at
 MB> all.

I recently made a request of a mail mover to set a person's feed to 'read
only'...he asked me for proof that I was the moderator. Since Thom has
elisted the echo, my only recourse was to tell that person to do a rescan
of the echo and count how many times I've posted the rules in the echo.

It's real easy to scan for a subject line that says 'Rulz'...

I'm sure that if it were a mail mover who used the echolist as their
bible, they would have ignored my request. However, since I've owned that
echo tag for so many years, the person I made that request of did as I
asked.

 RW>> The true test would be that both of the recognized moderators ask
 RW>> the NAB to cut the feed of a user that they feed. The NAB requires
 RW>> an echo to be elisted, so, who would they recognize in this case?

 MB> I've already seen how the NAB responds.  It responds to whatever
 MB> request it shares the most allegiance.

You got that right. During the time I requested the feed cut of a certain
asshole in FN_SYSOP, I was refused until I convinced someone else that it
was a legitimate request and that it should be honored. That person had
more integrity than anyone on the NAB or anyone else who offered or gave
Doosche a feed to the echo after he was cut from the NAB.

               R\%/itt




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