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Skriven 2007-04-06 10:27:30 av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
  Kommentar till text 49208 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
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06 Apr 07 09:17, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Ross Cassell:

 MvdV> Hello Ross!

 MvdV> On Thursday April 05 2007 10:59, you wrote to me:

 MV>>> Isn't it so that once the money was given to the victims of
 MV>>> Katrina, it is no longer the tax payer's money, but the
 MV>>> recipients money and that it is their decision how to spend it?

 RC>> For food, supplies and shelter.

 MvdV> You are dodging the question. is it, or is it not the recipients
 MvdV> final decision how he/she spends the money?

No. First of all, they must pay for the FEMA provided or state provided
housing. Those who came to Texas do. They can't eat without food and they
can't wipe their ass without supplies, so they must shop for them.

I believe they're given vouchers for that purpose, not cash.

 RC>>>> Your countries over their have way better social systems than
 RC>>>> ours, however if you knew someone was drawing on them
 RC>>>> fraudulently, is it not your civic duty to report it?

 MV>>> No, we are not required to spy on our neighbours. This isn't the
 MV>>> Third Reich we live in.

But, by your own nature, you would whether there was a Third Reich
or not.

 RC>> Someone of your number once told me that you all have severe
 RC>> penalties if your social services get used fraudulently.

 MvdV> "Severe" is a matter of perception, but yes, there are penalties
 MvdV> for fraudulent use. *Of course* there are. It is not my job however
 MvdV> to go and trace fraud. We have peole who are paid to do hat.

Being the person that you are, that may be your job.

 MvdV> Question: Would using the FEMA money for a purpose other than food,
 MvdV> shelter or supplies be a fraud?

Probably not, but using it for something not intended could be a crime. If
you're kicked out on the street for not paying for your FEMA housing, for
instance, that could be construed as 'child endangerment' if they had
children to support. Law enforcement could put the children in state
custody and the parents in jail.

 RC>> We dont spy on our neighbors either, but if I become aware of one
 RC>> breaking the law and I dont report it, in theory I am complicit in
 RC>> that persons crime.

 MvdV> Different country, different laws.

That is what you've been spewing here for 6 or 7 years - 'the people of
the US are complicent in (what you think is) a crime in the war on
terrorism in Iraq because they voted for GWB.'

 RC>> If I witnessed a neighbor or a local auto repair shop dumping used
 RC>> motor oil into a local creek or stream, are you saying I shouldnt
 RC>> report it, despite the harm it would do to the eco-system, much less
 RC>> to others via water supply?

 MvdV> I am not saying that at all. You are putting words into my mouth.

And yet, you've stated that there is no 'Third Reich' in urope...you can't
have it both ways.

 RC>> As that German journalist pointed out, I see you Euro's havent lost
 RC>> your ability to appease.

 MvdV> German journalist = Euro. And you just take the word of a Euro
 MvdV> Pacifict Pussy for it?

You're all pacifist pussies, so what's the problem?


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