Text 5229, 93 rader
Skriven 2005-01-19 07:02:29 av David Drummond (3:640/305)
   Kommentar till text 5223 av Roy Witt (1:10/22)
Ärende: US/Austrailian knowledge (was: Motorcycles (was: Pee-Four))
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Roy Witt -> David Drummond wrote:

 DD>>>> Not my job, I live a blissfully lifestyle free from exposure to
 DD>>>> nutters firearms.
 RW>>> BS!
 DD>> No BS - I can go for months without seeing a firearm.

 RW> I was commenting on the 'blissfully' part.

Yeah, poor grammar. I don't recall whether I was going to put another word in
there, or whether I just meant blissful. Either way, I am very happy living
free from that exposure.

 DD>>>>  Those nutters have a job if they wish to wave them about in
 DD>>>> public.
 RW>>> Do 'Bobbys' carry?
 DD>> "Bobbys" are found in England, not here.

 RW> At least you dawn unda boiz got that right.

 DD>> The local Police do "carry" - glocks. They have it in a fully
 DD>> enclosed holster on their person. That holster could be empty, one
 DD>> can't tell by looking.

 RW> I can tell. There's a difference in the way the holster reacts to their
 RW> gate when they walk. Of course, one could safely assume that they are
 RW> carrying.

Yeah, I would too - but I can't see it, so I'm not exposed to it.

In the nearly 25 years I've been here, I've only once seen policemen exposing
their pieces. Unfortunately for me, they were pointing them at my brother and
me. Luckily they didn't fire.

 RW>>> Do those who tremble at the idea of encountering a criminal who
 RW>>> threatens their lives?

 DD>> Even if they did, they're not allowed to take the law into their own
 DD>> hands by using a firearm.

 RW> So you're stripped of your right to defend yourself too! Interesting
 RW> place, Australia.

As with all "rights", they're granted and removed by the government of the day.

[...]
 RW>>> Firearms are used for more than protection. Only the weak minded
 RW>>> would think otherwise. Hell, shooting firearms is an olympic sport.
 DD>> Yep, and Aussies excel at it too. They don't "carry" in public here
 DD>> though.

 RW> I would. Nobody would know it, but I would.

You've got to get it into the country first.

[..]

 RW> I'd rather have my piece confiscated after dispatching a criminal, or two,
 RW> than have six of my peers carry my casket. I can always find another
 RW> piece.

No use to you inside. You get locked away here for shooting people (unless
you're a police officer)

 RW> Especially when 2.2 million of them are still available and
 RW> importing them is a big black market now.

All owned by the same small bunch of criminals....

[...]
 RW> That's not proof..

 RW>>> I didn't think you could support what you say.

 DD>> What? Do you want me to get witness accounts of people *not* speaking
 DD>> in favour of firearms?

 RW> No, just a statistical statement from both sides of the issue. Most
 RW> doesn't relate to either side without statistics.

You've produced your own statistics. If there are 2.2 million firearms in
Australia, and 19 million people, then even at one weapon per person that still
leaves a vast majority with no firearm.

Could that be because they don't care for one?

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Regards
David

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