Text 5654, 94 rader
Skriven 2005-02-28 07:34:48 av Roy Witt (1:10/22)
   Kommentar till text 5634 av Thom LaCosta (1:261/1352.0)
Ärende: FidoNews 22:08 [00/06]: The Front Page
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Hello Thom.

27 Feb 33 21:06, you wrote to me:

 TL> Roy Witt wrote in a message to Thom LaCosta:

 RW>> Hello Thom.

 RW>> 27 Feb 33 06:45, you wrote to me:

 RW>>>> So what we have here is a system that isn't open to Fidonet
 RW>>>> mailers.

 MvdV>>> No, it is just not open to YOU!

 RW>>> No biggy. I wouldn't want to be affliliated with anyone who
 RW>>> advertises copyrighted material on his website. Who knows, maybe
 RW>>> he'd drop some of that on my system and call the copyright police.

 TL>> Is he selling the copywritten material, or simply offering it for
 TL>> downloading?

 RW>> AFAIK, it's free for the downloading.

 TL> So it's not a commercial venture...just a rip off of commercial
 TL> products.

Yeup. I posted a list of what's there in this packet.

 TL>> Might be a very interesting article for Fidonews.....
 RW>> Just like Dan's article about the need for a moderator in FNS and
 RW>> here. It won't be found in the editor's inbox, nor will it ever be
 RW>> printed.

 TL> Still, someone might want to submit it to him.....but then again,
 TL> maybe the reason there is little new content in Fidonews is that
 TL> articles really don't make it to the Editor....after all, he most
 TL> likely isn;t censoring ALL the articles.

I learned from Dan this morning that he has re-submitted it.

 TL>> Just think, since we've had all sorts of discussions about copyright
 TL>> law, even down to how the name of the convention is spelled...we
 TL>> could have an article on how Fidonet can be used to distribute
 TL>> copywritteen material.

 RW>> Even the ins and outs of bypassing policy.

 TL> Oh bypassing policy is boring....but theft of goods and services is
 TL> interesting.

We also have complicancy from Dossche. He says file a PC and see how far
it gets. :o) Of course, my intent wasn't to get any *Cs into it, as there
is nothing they can do per policy. However, one would think that they'd
want to stop him from denigrating Fidonet with a website where you can
join in Fidonet echomail and download copywritten materials all in one
place.

 TL>> But surely there must be a mistake...it's hard to believe that a
 TL>> well repsected member of the Fidonet community would engage in such
 TL>> ativities.

 RW>> Well, if you had followed the url I posted here a while ago, you
 RW>> could have seen what was available and drawn your own conclusions
 RW>> on that. Of course, since he was able to fix his system to recieve
 RW>> pings now, maybe he could hide the link better.

 TL> Oh I'm sure this some logical explanation for having those links
 TL> up....it may be that we are not sophisticated or learned enough to
 TL> understand the logic.

That's got to be it. I never thought of it until you mentioned that. So
much for my sophistication of such matters.

 TL> Could it be that the links were simply something he had intended for
 TL> internal use?

Nope. Go to http://felten.dyndns.org, click on 'Some moving pictures' that
link http://felten.dyndns.org/movies.html, will take you to a list of
movies. They're not downloadable there. But, if you scroll down the page
and find the TT and click on it, you'll be linked with the downloadable
page http://felten.dyndns.org/SECRET2.HTM -- or you can go directly to the
download page by entering the 'secret2' link in your browser.

 TL> Considering how Orwellian logic was used to explain the Zone 2 style
 TL> of moderation, I can hardly wait to see how the links you cited are
 TL> explained away.

Nobody seems to care. I opened up the subject in FNS, but only got a token
of interest.


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