Text 8500, 74 rader
Skriven 2005-03-27 12:42:48 av Matt Bedynek (1:106/1)
   Kommentar till text 8495 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: Fidonews Echo Rules
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Hello Michiel.

27 Mar 05 18:50, you wrote to me:

 MvdV>>> Now let us see how far a feed cut request will go...

 MB>> The feed cut will fail because he is not recognized as moderator?

 MvdV> That's one.

Right.  I have made this point myself.

 MB>> Or, will it fail because there are more sysops in your zone to
 MB>> band together?

 MvdV> That's two.

I see.  Well this acknowledgment means you have virtually eliminated the
possibility for any sort of understanding.  This translates to ultimately you
do not care if your position is in the "right" that you will do your best to
execute (by numbers) brute force to enforce your opinion on others.  This is
alarming and tells me where the remainents of Fidonet is ultimately heading.

You are but one person, Michiel.  There is no way for you to predict that every
sysop in your zone will follow your will.  In fact, percentage wise, the number
of vocal sysops in your zone is much smaller than those in my zone.  Though
this does not surprise me.  Every religion in history always claims that god
and the silent majority is on their side.  :-)

 MB>> Will feed cuts for echos I moderate also fail because of the
 MB>> majority?

 MvdV> Not if your moderatorship is not in dispute.

I see.  All you have to do is dispute my moderation of an echo, claim
legitimacy for your cause, and execute the action necessary.  That sounds a lot
like the definition of [digital] terrorism I gave.  You will give legitimacy to
your cause by quoting passages from your echopol (bible) and say that gives you
the right (devine right) to do as you please against the wrong (infidels). :-)

 MB>> Besides, what does the majority have to do with anything?

 MvdV> You have no idea of the power of numbers?

I see.  So what you are suggesting here is all it takes is numbers to get what
they want, rules, policy, right or wrong be damned.  Excellent!

 MB>> - what percentage of those sysops are active?

 MvdV> Roughly one percent.

So what percent of that one percent:

- post here.
- care about petty bitching?
- are 100% in line with what you claim is right?

 MB>> - what percentage of those sysops even care?

 MvdV> Roughly one percent.

Feel free to post the data you use to build your statistics.

 MvdV> What's all that got to do with the chance of succes of a feed cut
 MvdV> request?

There are too many variables to predict with any accuracy what will happen.

Matt

e-mail: matt [at] thunderdome.us | icq: 16568532 | yahoo: mbedynek

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