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Skriven 2005-03-30 08:19:30 av Roy Witt (1:10/22)
   Kommentar till text 9070 av Bjarte Boe (2:211/42)
Ärende: NIMBY
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Hello Bjarte.

30 Mar 33 05:08, you wrote to me:

 >>> While we are installing a program or service made of U.S., there
 >>> came a disclamer agreement or any bullshit, we care to be
 >>> acknowledged by our own law and rights.
 >> You should look at the 70 or so conventions and treaties your
 >> country has signed.

 BB> As the time changes, I am a voter and could affect the resignation
 BB> of the different conventions and treaties.

Doubtful. You're dealing with polictians there.

 BB> It is parlament voting in September, and the Red-Green coality
 BB> could see to win - and they have a more discance American attitude
 BB> than our sitting Government.

No biggy.

 BB> I tradionatilly support the blue wing of political with the
 BB> traditional ties between USA and Norway, but it seems that I would
 BB> change my mind if there are conventions and treaties at more
 BB> "one-way"

Just like the rest of the countries in the world, yours will one day
protect copyrights of people's works.

 BB> For example, a wanted Norwegian crime who violated the
 BB> U.S. State and Federal laws, could be delivered to US.. But if an
 BB> American citizen who make any violation of Norwegian law, could not
 BB> be delivered to Norway. That is unfair.

I agree. But it happens all the time here. People from Mexico come
across the border and commit all kinds of crimes in the US. Then they
flee back to Mexico, never to be prosecuted, because Mexico doesn't have
any extradition treaty with the US.

OTH, if an American commits a crime in Mexico, even a misdemeanor, not
even the US Embassy can get you out of jail. You either have to bribe
your way out or sit out your sentence, if they ever get around to trying
your case.

 >>> Not alien (USA for example) laws, and we do not waste our brain do
 >>> know about that!
 >> I see. You waste it on other things?

 BB> No, we do have TOO much other tings to use our dickhead to!

What's a dickhead?

 >>>>> USA is making a worldwide empire while U.S. law involves outside
 >>>>> USA's border, and I am sure that USA will run the shit of their
 >>>>> business down in future!
 >>>> Then you won't have anything to worry about in the near future.
 >>> I hope so that, and it handles about the respect of U.S.!
 >> You should be careful of what you wish for.

 BB> Listen, listen, what Roy said! The famous U.S. power arrogance!

Not in the least. Without the US to bash, you uros will begin to fight
amongst yourselves or become slaves of the Russians. History repeats
itself and urope is long overdue.

 >>> I lived in U.S. for one year, and know much about U.S. and got good
 >>> credits about that.
 >> You couldn't possibly have lived in every part of the US and know
 >> anything about this country.

 BB> I am glad to hear from you. You are from Texas, and you don't feel
 BB> a part of US!

I'm not from Texas, I'm moving there.

 BB> I know the strong separatist feelings in Texas, California and
 BB> Alaska.

Like I said, you don't know anything about the US.

 BB> The other states in US are not worth for you, so your point is
 BB> absolutely valueless!

Much more value than your ignorant rants.

 BB> I talked with an Alaskan exchange student here and he said Alaska
 BB> wanted to be an own country because of their oil resources and he
 BB> said US Government surelly will use the military power against
 BB> Alaska if the Alaskan parlament declares any form for independence.

And that is ludricrous. Alaska's legislature petitioned the US
legislature to become a state, way back in 1959. One person's opinion
isn't the opinion of the entire state's population.

 BB> I know US bought Alaska from Russia in 1850, and Alaska have selled
 BB> enought out of USA.

And many other parts of North America. Your point?

 >>> But 15 yrs later, it changes my sight. Don't ask me why, you all
 >>> know why.
 >> I have no idea...tell me why.

 BB> Ask your Congressmen, they are partying at all and telling everyone
 BB> that they are congress men. The truth, they are carrying the law
 BB> proposal while their brain are sleeping after a long night at DC!
 BB> You all voters have the responibilty to keeping on the right vote
 BB> of a dickhead with clean and clear brain!

Frankly, I think you're the dickhead who has no clue as to what's going
on in the US.

 >>> Drug trafficing are a more easier problem to tackle outside your
 >>> border, but copyright.. There are different laws,
 >> Like I said, take a look at the 70 or so conventions and treaties
 >> your country has signed. Basing your opinion in Norway's civil law
 >> isn't enough.

 BB> Neither the U.S. civil law. You could be sued for nothing, be
 BB> careful there!

Anybody can be sued anywhere. Norway is no exception.

 BB> I am happy to live here, here are much safe and here are less crazy
 BB> peoples and more tolerance.

I am happy that you're happy to live there. I know many Norwegian
immigrants here, who're glad they dont' live there.

 >>> and some of U.S. ISP provide their services that across your
 >>> borders and the different ISP does have own policy, and so on State
 >>> and Federal regulations.
 >> Very true. And those US ISPs must follow US law. Norwegien law
 >> doesn't matter to them, unless it is in compliance with those 70 or
 >> so conventions and treaties Norway has signed.

 BB> In such Internet service, it should be exceptions.

Not.

 BB> The definition of Internet is the anarchy environment and the ISP
 BB> should apply to their own country regulations, NOT across their
 BB> border!

Wrong.

 BB> USA should be careful with that, even the origion of Internet is
 BB> from USA (NJ)!

Is it?

 >>> Then we would be sued the ass of us, without being awared!
 >> Probaly not. You might get a warning, unless you're flagrantly
 >> displaying copyright material on a web site. That would depend on
 >> the user agreement you had to sign to get that service.

 BB> That would be fair if American got sued of Norwegian companies if
 BB> they flagrantly distributed the Norwegian copyright material on an
 BB> American website, even manipulating the material.




 >>> At the point of origin, our culture are different, and I dislike
 >>> the lately development of U.S.
 >> And I dislike the way the EU has been going on about things. Who are
 >> you or I to make a difference?

 BB> Unfortunatelly, both way. EU (we are non-EU member) are making more
 BB> healthy mind, while Americans are more awared until the least
 BB> juridic detail!

 BB> You are not allowed to have oral sex in a state for example, LOL!

Wanna bet?


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