Text 1017, 57 rader
Skriven 2007-05-05 23:29:32 av Matt Bedynek (1:106/1)
    Kommentar till text 962 av Ross Cassell (1:123/456)
Ärende: mark lewis
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Hello Ross.

05 May 07 10:07, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

 RC> Yes, Herman looks up to you and respects you.

I hear Dan Ceppa looks up to and respects you.

 RC> .. Hermans stunt had far more theoretical ramifications.

This statement really bothers me because it strongly highlights the hypocracy
in fidonet.  It did not seem to concern you when fidonet nodes password each
other out.  It did not concern you that someone posted from a nonexistent node
number.  It does not appear to concern you that one such node has forged
messages in the past.  It does not seem to concern you that people impersonate
moderators in echoes posting rules and such.

I could see and share your concern about Herman's act but the sole fact that
you have turned a blind eye to members of your zone for doing far worse actions
makes procecution of this one act impossible on your part.  Anything you say
will be interpreted as biased and hypocritical.

While I address you with these comments they apply to many people--even those
in other zones.  It takes a special person to treat everyone equal and
unfortunately we have a shortage of such individials in fidonet today.  When it
comes to standards and morals, one has to be willing to call out their
"friends" even at risk of damage to the friendship; contrariwise, a friend who
is truely a friend will respect what you have to say even if it upsets them. 
So, in a sense, fidonet is no longer about friendship or collaboration.  That
is one thing old fidonet had that the new fidonet does not and never will
again.  I see no friendships; instead, there are short lived alliances between
cut throat individuals whose temporary "friendships" are only molded around
common goals and agendas are similar.  You see it all the time.  Soon as two
people disagree, the arguement escilates, people terminate links over stupid
bullshit and the cycle repeats.

 RC> Roy continues to post them because it gets the desired reaction from
 RC> Herman you forget that his retaliations dont make his position any
 RC> better than Roys, ..

So what do you plan to do about the forged moderator postings?  Does it even
bother you?  Would it bother you any more if the moderator was a Z1 moderator
and/or the moderator was someone that you did not necessarily dislike?

In the old fidonet, where people didn't let their personal agendas affect
decisions (or perhaps they were just better at hiding it) Roy and Herman would
both been booted from fn_sysop for a time. But being that Z1 nodes will not
comply with a Z2 moderators request and Z2 nodes will not comply with a Z1
moderator's requests I doubt it will ever happen.  The people to blame for this
problem are all of those who turn a blind eye to such actions.

Matt

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