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Skriven 2008-03-03 10:32:13 av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
  Kommentar till text 11760 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
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02 Mar 08 22:45, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Roy Witt:

 RW>>>> Wrong. Bush will see to it that Guantanamo will be a non-issue
 RW>>>> before the election in November. Most of the detainees have been
 RW>>>> released and only the very core of terrorists are left. They're
 RW>>>> scheduled for prosecution soon.

 MvdV>>> I will believe that when I see it.

 RW>> You should be paying more attention to FoxNews, then you would
 RW>> already know this.

 MvdV> What did I miss?

Apparently, you didn't miss any sleep.

 MvdV> Is the Gitmo Hotel closed down? Are the suspects being tried in a
 MvdV> proper court of law?

The Pentagon announced on February 11 that it was charging six Guant namo
detainees, including alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, with
war crimes--and seeking the death penalty for all of them.

 MvdV>>> True. But if they are sensible they will worry about the
 MvdV>>> support the US will get from the rest of the world. They are
 MvdV>>> not powerfull enough to go it alone any more...

 RW>> Don't kid yourself. America won't fail the Iraqi' nor the Afghani'
 RW>> freedom fight as long as there's a penny left to do it with.

 MvdV> Sooner or later we will see a repeat of what happened in Vietnam.

Different war, different times with inept leaders.

 MvdV> One can not win a guerrilla war against an enemy fighting on its
 MvdV> won territory. When will they finally learn that lesson?

Apparently the guerrillas have decided that such a phenomina is
possible afterall. They've all but given up.

 RW>>>> Yes, but Obama's change isn't what we want.

 MvdV>>> Then why is he so popular?

 RW>> Ever here the fairy tale about the Pied Piper? All Obama has is a
 RW>> big mouth with no substance coming from it and very little world
 RW>> leadership experience to do anything.

 MvdV> No argument here, but it is not an answer to my question? Why is he
 MvdV> so popular if Obama's change is not the change people want? why is
 MvdV> he doing so well?

As with the rats of the Pied Piper tale, they can only see what the piper
is telling them. They don't realize that he's a hoax.

 RW>> When he's asked what his plans are for America's future, all he can
 RW>> say is 'change'

 MvdV> I am not impressed by that. But then I do not votem so my opinion
 MvdV> does not count.

So far what he's revealed of his plans for our future doesn't look good.

 RW>> ...I'll admit that Americans are war weary and want change.

 MvdV> So it seems...

 RW>> However, they've lost the perspective of what would happen if we
 RW>> leave Iraq unfinished.

 MvdV> There is no way to properly finish it.

We think there is...

 RW>> We'll be like Europe and have terrorists bombing our public
 RW>> buildings and subways.

 MvdV> Should have thought of that before the illegal invasion of Iraq.

That's what it would be like IF we leave Iraq, not because we're there.

 MvdV>>>>> Will he be a good president? I really do not know.

 MvdV>>> Naybe fresh blood it what is needed....

 RW>> His would be like putting a 1st year med student in charge of the
 RW>> emergency room. No experience, nobody gets out alive.

 MvdV> we will see.

I doubt that.

 RW>>>> Ronald Reagan was 70 when elected to his first term and wasn't
 RW>>>> diagnosed with alzheimers until 5 years after he left office.

 MvdV>>> Officially....

 RW>> Everything else said about it is strictly rumor.

 MvdV> I saw his performances on TV. During his last year his detoriation
 MvdV> was all too obvious.

I did too...I saw something completely different. I knew him as the person
who as early as 1964 had aspirations to the Presidency. But first, he had
to become Governor of California and wait out Gerold Ford to get the
nomination. He may have gotten a bit slower in his mannerism over the
years, but he still had an awareness just as he had in 64.

                R\%/itt



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