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Skriven 2008-03-05 03:06:40 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
     Kommentar till en text av Martin Atkins
Ärende: Thai girls
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 BF>> I know it can be difficult to determine their age but some are 14, trust
 BF>> me on this.

 MA> Very few are under age. As i said it does happen but not as much as you
 MA> would think. Trust me on this.

Have you seen it with your own eyes like I have?
Once a girl came up to me and asked me from where I am and took out a form
to fill in what kind of girl I wanted and I could order anything from that
"menu".

 MA>> Thai girls are money hungry even by western standards so any chance they
 MA>> get to blackmail you they will and so will her family.

 BF>> From our Thai friends we have learned that the girls family have nothing
 BF>> to do with this.

 MA> Yes they do. Thai's all have friends of friends and if you put your self
 MA> in a vulnrable position they will milk you for all your worth.

Then you have a very "disturbed" opinion of the Thai people.

 BF>> Most girls comes from up north, Burma, Laos or
 BF>> Cambodia and are "sold" to pimps here because there isn't much else they
 BF>> can make money on.

 MA> I don't know who you have been talking to. Thai girls don't have pimps but
 MA> may have boy friends who drop them of and pick them up from the bars. They
 MA> are quite open about this and often the boy is from their own village.

From where have you heard this?

BF>>Laos is 35 years behind Thailand and Cambodia
BF>> is 20.

 MA> This is irrelevant once in Thailand they are freelance. How could pimps
 MA> compete with the local girls? The girls are ultimately in charge of the
 MA> sex industry and if one is in trouble they send them away and have a word
 MA> with a cop about the errant foreigner. They all know someone who knows
 MA> someone who knows a cop.

So you haven't heard about the Russian mob taking over that kind of things
here?

 MA> If anything it would be western girls that would fall under contol of a
 MA> pimp.

You haven't been to "our" street then.

 MA>> The police are also hungry for money and if they see what they think is
 MA>> an under age girl with a feragn they will ask the girl for ID, no ID and
 MA>> it's off to the monkey house and it costs big money to get out.

 BF>> From where have you gotten this?

 MA> The girls themselves.

Oh......

 MA> Nearly every bar has a head girl who checks the ID
 MA> of the staff. The only time a bar deliberatly employs under age girls is
 MA> when a stupid forigner runs the entire show. They don't last long.

The Russians are.

BF>> I've never seen any police bother with this. The Russian mob is in charge
BF>> and they doesn't want anyone to interfer with their buisness and this is a
BF>> HUGE buisness so if it would stop it would be the end of tourism to
BF>> Thailand.

 MA> Things may be different in Pattaya but here the girls call the shots.

And where is "here"?

 MA> I think s
 MA> a tourist you have been listening to sensational nonsence. Russians or for
 MA> that matter any forigner could not have any hold over the girls as there
 MA> is no avenue for blackmail or imprisonment.

Last year the Russian mob ordered the killing of a Russian girl that had come
here to help.

MA>> I have to smile at some of the aging fat slobs that walk hand in hand with
 MA>> their new "girl friend". They honestly believe the dear young thing loves
 MA>> them. A few days later you see them full of woe. The sweetness of their
 MA>> life has made off with their bank card, passport and just about anything
 MA>> of value the hopeless chump had. If you must a pretty young thing have
 MA>> her for one night and make sure you put anything of value in a safe if
 MA>> you take her back to your own place. Make sure you do it before sleep.

 BF>> And how do you know this?

 MA> I've lived here for over a year. Like most tourists you doubt what I say.

I've spent some time in Thailand as well and have got some really good Thai
friends and they do not confirm your opinion.

 MA> Ok..so be it at your own cost. If i were sitting at a table with some
 MA> resident expats they would be nodding in agreement all be it with a wry
 MA> smile on their faces.

BF>> What we have seen it's the other way around. The pimp control everything
BF>> and it's him you should worry about. Not the girls.

MA>> If you intend using a short stay room, then only take as much money as you
MA>> can afford to lose and leave the bank card and passport in the hotel safe.
MA>> Older Thai women can make very nice lovers and wives but never give them
MA>> more than you can afford to lose.

BF>> See above.

 MA> You too. You are a babe in the woods. I know whole bunches of bar girls
 MA> and I love them all to pieces. I just make sure I only let them take what
 MA> I can afford and enough to put a smile on their sweet faces.

You must have been hanging out on the most "exotic" bars in Thailand where
the people are just like in every dirty place all over the world.
This is not my opinion of a normal Thai person.

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