Text 13998, 249 rader
Skriven 2008-04-09 08:40:25 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
  Kommentar till text 13980 av Jeff Smith (1:14/5)
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 JS>      Only in your mind Björn, only in your mind.

 BF>> Now when I get my feed from another place, does that mean that you will
 BF>> you shut down this feed too?

 JS>      Of course not. Everyone likes you way too much for that. I would
 JS> suspect that most just attribute it to your apparent paranoia.

I have done some cut and paste here from a post that didn't make it out before
the feed was cut. Enjoy.

 JS>>>>>>  Not to rehash old topics

 BF>>>>> Then, why do you....?

 JS>>>>      Has the moderator situation changed recently?

 BF>>> Where have you been if you have to ask?

 JS>> Umm... I guessed you missed the point of my question.

 BF> I must have.

 BF>>>>> I was wondering how long it would take until you entered the scene,
 BF>>>>> the man who are so against diatribes. And then you wonder why so many
 BF>>>>> in here are anti-American......

 JS>>>> Give it a rest Björn.

 BF>>> The same to you.

 JS>>     Is that the best that you can come up with? How about actually
 JS>> responding to my questions?

 BF> Ok, and then you answer mine.....?

 JS>>>> Can't you write one message where you don't
 JS>>>> feel the burning desire to use the term "Anti-American"?

 BF> Of course I can and check your archives and it will be obvious even for
 BF> you.

 BF>>> Can't you write one message where you don't feel the burning desire to
 BF>>> bash Felten?

 JS>>     Yes I can and do. You on the other hand don't seem to have that
 JS>> ability.

 BF> Here I have to use Roy's famous mirror.

 BF>>>  You haven't been posting too much latly but as soon as
 BF>>> you saw someone kicking Feltens ass you were the first to join.

 JS>>     Then you need to pay better attention Björn. It is true that I don't
 JS>> post as often as you do. But then I try for more quality than quantity.

 BF> What quality was in your msg. to Felten? The quantity of your msg's
 BF> against him speaks more.

 JS>>>> Why are you fixated on HAVING to dwell on that?

 BF>>> Why are you fixated on HAVING to jump on every bandwagon that goes
 BF>>> against Felten?

 JS>>      You are unable to answer simple questions aren't you? Try responding
 JS>> to the questions I have asked.

 BF> I don't think you're the one who should talk about fixation since all you
 BF> can do is to bash Felten like it is with me bashing USA. We're two of a
 BF> kind and isn't it funny?

 JS>>>> Is that what your whole existence revolves around?

 BF>>> Is that what YOUR whole existence revolves around? To bash Felten?

 JS>>  <sigh> See above.

 BF> Then prove it and I might stop as well.

 JS>>>> At the end of the day do you ask yourself "Have I
 JS>>>> preached enough hate and discontent today?"

 BF>>> Your post to Felten wasn't exactly a love letter either.

 JS>>      Offering an opinion on his moderating style was neither a love
 JS>> or hate letter. I don't dislike Felten. I dislike and diagree with his
 JS>> moderating abilities.

 BF> Oh, I really must have missed something.

 JS>>     You on the other hand can't answer simply questions and seem obsessed
 JS>> with posting messages that preach hate and dislike for people.

 BF> Only to those who deserve it and next time you will write a love letter to
 BF> Felten then.

 JS>> You don't
 JS>> single out a particular aspect that you don't agree with. You simply
 JS>> express hate for everything. In fact the topic of discussion doesn't even
 JS>> have to be about America at all for you to try to inject your
 JS>> anti-American comments. You offer comments, opinions, and conclusions
 JS>> without having the knowledge or having done the research to support them.

 BF> Unlike you I (most of the time) trust what's on Swedish news and for the
 BF> rest above I don't see much of a difference from your side of what you
 BF> accuse me of.

 JS>> Which simply makes you look like just someone that simply needs to run
 JS>> their mouth.

 BF> Have you thought about how it sounds when you jump on every single
 BF> bandwagon that goes against Felten? I didn't think so, no.

 BF>>>>> How many times have we heard this?

 JS>>>>      That will depend on how long the problem continues.

 BF> So it has nothing to do with you bringing it to our attention at all?

 BF>>> And on how long you're going to dwell on it.

 JS>>     You would have to ask Felten on that.

 BF> You can ask yourself the same question.

 BF>>>>> Welcome to the bashing whatever bunch.
 BF>>>>> It is easier to see the grain in others eyes than the log in your own.

 JS>>>>     Are you becoming more self aware?

 BF>>> I've been aware all the time unlike you.

 JS>>     Like you would have a clue.

 BF> See, you toss shit at me and I toss shit at you, what's the difference?
 BF> Does that mean you are better than me because you are American? Is
 BF> American shit better than European shit?

 BF>>>  My anti-American rants are to show you that Americans aren't any
 BF>>> better than anyone else

 JS>>     We are all people of the same planet there Björn.

 BF> Sure, see above.

 JS>> All made of the same
 JS>> stuff. All subject to the same potential for good and bad in life and in
 JS>> deed.

 BF> Start acting like that and come down from your high horse then.

 JS>> Do you really have any clue on what others REALLY think? Or do only
 JS>> believe what you see on the news and in the tabloids?

 BF> I've told you so many times that our radio/TV news are so different to
 BF> yours and it's very rare that they doesn't know what they are talking
 BF> about so yes, most of the time I do believe them.

 BF>>> you worship every single life,

 JS>>      Yes life is special Björn. I am sorry that you don't think so. That
 JS>> may be yet another factor to explain your mindset.

 BF> Here you are using Roy's technique to take words out of context to make
 BF> your point. Sad.
 BF> Do *you* really know what *I* think?
 BF> I worship every single life too and have a problem with even killing a
 BF> bird and I don't even own a gun or a rifle so your statment above is just
 BF> silly and if the Swedish gov. should tell me to go to war with any country
 BF> I would emigrate. Although, about abortion I think it's up to the mother
 BF> to decide that and not to the gov.

 BF>>>  even unborn but haven't a problem with that 50 000
 BF>>> ambulances every year can't go to the nearest hospital so the patients
 BF>>> dies during the transport. The answer I got was that 50k ambulance
 BF>>> transports are such a low number compared with 300 million inhabitants
 BF>>> so what. I just can't understand how you can turn your coat so fast just
 BF>>> because the wind blows the American way. Let me tell you, a father here
 BF>>> that have raped and abused his now 17 yo daughter hundreds of times and
 BF>>> now is in psychiatric care have by a court been given back the custody
 BF>>> of her although she wants it to be changed to her stepfather. That is
 BF>>> just as sick as using entrapment that you Americans love so much but I
 BF>>> never hear anyone saying anything against it. What's done the American
 BF>>> way is always right. Right now I heard on the news with one ear that
 BF>>> every American soldier that was accused of killing innocent wiman and
 BF>>> children in Iraq in the beginning of the war was set free. Now it's only
 BF>>> their leader left to stand trial and I wouldn't be surprised if even he
 BF>>> walks free and what kind of signals do you think that sends around the
 BF>>> world? Stop defend every wrongdoings done by Americans and stop jumping
 BF>>> on Felten as soon as it suits you and we might come to an agreement.
 BF>>> Until that you will see me post whatever I like about America.

 JS>>      I am truly sorry that you have formed that opinion of people and
 JS>> of life there Björn. I and I would think others see the same world that
 JS>> you do Björn and we don't see the world or a particular country as all
 JS>> bad. Your conclusions above are wrong on several levels Björn.

 BF> Did you miss where I said that even Sweden makes terrible mistakes? On
 BF> what levels am I wrong? About those 50 000 ambulances? Reported on Fox.
 BF> About the child molester? Reported on Swedish radio. About the American
 BF> soldiers? I'm sure you can veryfy that even in USA. So, where am I wrong?

 JS>> But the basic reason is that they are based on a level of hate and
 JS>> dislike for life.

 BF> Not at all, but on stupid people making stupid decitions where ever they
 BF> are in the world.

 JS>> That and the fact that I see you sitting in front of your television with
 JS>> your tabloid in your hand.

 BF> How would you know that?

 JS>> Drawing and forming your conclusions of life and the world on what you
 JS>> see and read.

 BF> Don't you? Or do you travel to Burma to form your own opinion about what's
 BF> going on there? Or to Tibet? Or are you saying that I shouldn't believe
 BF> the videos coming from those countries where people are abused and killed?

 JS>>     Have you actually gotten to know some of the people that you have
 JS>> expressed your hatred of? Have you actually experienced some of the
 JS>> things that you seem to hate so much?  Have you actually gone to and
 JS>> experienced some of the places that you seem to hate? Based on your own
 JS>> statements it doesn't look like you have.

 BF> I base my statment about USA from people like you that are unable to see
 BF> things from another perspective than your own. Jeff Bowman was a real
 BF> fresh wind that cleaned many of my opinions and compare you with Bob
 BF> Ackley isn't possible. Those two are far above your level and can see it
 BF> from more than one angle. And for your information there are many things I
 BF> don't like with Thailand either and there I've been for 6 months so I do
 BF> think that I have more experience from how it is in the world than you
 BF> have. I've also seen many horrible things in Laos, Cambodia, Domenican
 BF> Republic, Haiti and in many European countries so don't come and tell me
 BF> anything about experience. You, that I guess not even have been outside of
 BF> your state or at least the American border, what do you know about how
 BF> life is in other places than your own?

 JS>>     You simply hate because you want to. Which is sad.

 BF> Why are you who are fixated with hate? I try to see that shit happends all
 BF> over the world and I also note that not even you said anything about those
 BF> American soldiers that agreed to having killed civilians in Iraq and got
 BF> off the hook so I guess that even you think it's Ok, you who worship every
 BF> single life.

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