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Text 15107, 53 rader
Skriven 2008-05-11 02:09:34 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
  Kommentar till text 14947 av Dale Shipp (1:261/1466.0)
Ärende: Editors
===============
Hello Dale,

On Thursday May 08 2008 23:03, you wrote to me:

 MVDV>> In the old DOS environmnet this was taken care of by the
 MVDV>> terminal.

 DS> I am in a DOS environment with respect to reading and replying to
 DS> echomail.  Not sure what you mean by terminal though.

I see that you have dropped the indentation. Much better, thank you.

By "terminal" I mean the device - hardware or emulated - that make the text
visible to the user.

 MVDV>> If you were a user on someone else's system, that may be a
 MVDV>> valid excuse. As it is, you are the sysop of the system and
 MVDV>> therefore considered in full control of it. That you are
 MVDV>> unable to do something about it, is a lame excuse for a
 MVDV>> FidoNet sysop.

 DS> So tell me how I could possibly reprogram Maximus and/or Squish to
 DS> make them not do that?   I have no such control.  Don't try to pretend
 DS> that I do.

I never pretended that you did. I merely said that you have control over how
your messages look when they are inserted into fidonet. Others manage to to it,
so why can't you? Why are you afixed to use a bbs for interfacing with fidonet
in the first place? Why not use a sysop editor ( the one that Werner call a nod
editor) like Golded er MsgEd that directly writes to the message base?

 MVDV>> "Smart" is not a requirement for FidoNet software. FTS-0001
 MVDV>> complience is.

 DS> I see, better to be "compliant" than "smart".

Your words, not mine. Smart is in the eye of the beholder. Complient is in the
specs.

 DS> Since that standard allows any thing at the application level --
 DS> everyone is compliant.

No, it does not allow anything at the aplication level. What it allows is for
applications to *store it locally* in any way they want. What it does not allow
is to insert it into the network in any way they want.

Software that inserts message into thge network that do not conform to the
standard for *.PKT as documented in FTS-0001 are non complient.

Cheers, Michiel

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