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Text 17507, 113 rader
Skriven 2008-06-08 17:10:34 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
  Kommentar till text 17480 av Jeff Smith (1:14/5)
Ärende: Gun crazy
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 JS>>> So the solution is to yell and scream at everyone?

 BF>> Where did I say that?

 JS>      You didn't. I was asking you a question.

Well, no it isn't, the best is to igore them but that will never happend.

 BF>> Then start addressing those who are worst without looking at if they are
 BF>> from Z1 or Z2 or whatever.

 JS> That is exactly what I have been doing.

I can't say I've seen anything like that....

 JS> My critical comments are not
 JS> based on where they come from or what nationality they may happen to be.

That's the problem, you do.....

 JS> My comments are based on the person and their posted words.

Nope. I've never see you say anything to Roy when he is in his glory.

 JS> In this
 JS> particular case it was the other person who makes the nationality of major
 JS> concern.  This is not the first time there has been a discussion here
 JS> about people disliking people based on what country they come from. Here
 JS> that is called being prejudice. And yes that behavior can be seen to
 JS> varying degrees from several "sides". If we can agree that such behavior
 JS> is wrong or at least undisireable. Why then do we support those that act
 JS> in that fashion?

It's just for everyone to ignore those that doesn't. Roy have been posting shit
to me that I ingore, easy as that.

 JS>    Personally I think we would be better of without zones to divide us.
 JS> But that is another subject of discussion.

That will never happend either and with all history here it's likely that that
wouldn't have any effect at all.

 JS>>>     As I have stated before this behavior is not limited to one
 JS>>> individual or one side. I was speaking to/of an individual but that same
 JS>>> applies equally to others too.

 BF>> That isn't as clear as you think it is.

 JS>      I have stated that specifically and clearly. If some choose not to
 JS> see
 JS> or it wouldn't be politically correct for them to see. Then that is their
 JS> choice.

Again, that's how you see it.

 BF>> There was a time when Fido had lots of people and when this was pleasant
 BF>> place to be. Now it seems that most of the remaining people (not only in
 BF>> this echo) are those that are the worst patriots (fanatics)

 JS>      I don't look at being a patriot as being synonymous with being a
 JS> fanatic. The choice of the two terms depends on who is doing the looking.
 JS> IOW, a patriot to one is a fanatic to someone else. To me it depends on
 JS> the degree of patriotism.  To what end is someone willing to go in the
 JS> expression of their patriotism?

Take a look in the political and debate echoes. It's almost 100% Americans and
almost 0 traffic to what it used to be and what do the remaining do? If they
don't
question the moderator they only try to find each others faults and call each
other
names. How encouraging is that?

 JS>      Yup, we are getting down to the bitter dregs of Fidonet. <g>

We sure are and with Frank V leaving and presumably me too if things work out
as I hope they will.

 BF>>  and I believe that they aren't a good representative of how
 BF>> it is in any country.

 JS>     Then why is that the usual reason that is given? What any country
 JS> really is is so much more than the rather misleading view that we see
 JS> here.

As long as it it how it is I think we should show us from the best side
possible
and be a good ambassador for our country.

 JS>>> Is America all bad as someone else has suggested?

 BF>> I don't know since I've never been there but your foregin politics
 BF>> stinks.

 JS> Our national politics sucks too. <g> Me? I liked JFK.

That's up to you but I liked JFK as well.

 BF>> At least as many as those who dislike America.

 BF>>>> When will you talk to/about them?

 JS>>>     I have. You choose not to see that. Makes it easier for you
 JS>>> doesn't it?

 BF>> When and where?

 JS>     In this very echo. Look back.

I don't have an archive but I'm waiting to see when you will speak up
against Roy.

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