Text 20978, 99 rader
Skriven 2008-09-17 14:13:58 av Ross Cassell (1:123/456)
  Kommentar till text 20976 av shannon talley (1:124/311)
Ärende: Things Change
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Hello shannon!

17 Sep 08 11:54, you wrote to me:

 >> and notice how the battle cry of the left is to raise the taxes of
 >> the rich, despite the fact that the top wage earners already pay a
 >> lop sided portion of income taxes collected in respect to all that
 >> gets collected from the entire populace.

 st> I never said "Raise Taxes"; I simply inferred that money is available
 st> from an existing tax base.  Perhaps "better spending" is in order <g>

As long as the left wing promotes class envy, you are going to see people like
me object to the welfare mentality.

There are people whom sit up in judgement of the well to do (and what level
does one attain to be that, 75K, 100k, 200k + yr?)and try to decide for them
what they should have and should be able to do.

 >> st> I have an issue with this one; I believe in a free country, and
 >> I do
 >> st> not agree with the government telling people whether or not they
 >> may
 >> st> have children.
 >> If they are already receiving public assistance and continue to bear
 >> children it increases their dependency and affects their ability to
 >> get a job and off of assistance..

 st> True, but who is going to pass a law to ban births? There will ALWAYS
 st> be a population of poor or disadvantaged or derelicts, however one
 st> wants to label them -- they will always exist.  Should we make them
 st> more poor & more disadvantaged?  I don't have the answers; and to
 st> date, I'm unaware of anyone who does.  But to turn off their aid
 st> completely because they had a kiddo is playing a very obtuse game.

No, simply tell them up front that they wont receive additional benifits should
they have more children. The cycle has to be broken somewhere.

What should be happening here is they get assistance until they work their way
to getting off of it, education, job training whatever, then once off of
assistance, they can make babies all they want.

 >> Thats not what I am talking about..
 >> ZERO tolerance, which is what you complained about came about after
 >> existing
 >> penalties for existing crimes werent serving as a deterence,
 >> therefore penalties got made tougher.
 >> Examples:
 >> Drunk Driving Laws...
 >> Sexual Harassment/Hostile Workplace..
 >> Weak and pathetic in the days of old, ZERO tolerance with severe
 >> penalties (mostly civil) today. How many times have you heard today
 >> of children being sustended and in some cases expelled because they
 >> brought a nail file to school?

 st> How about zero tolerance for having a pair of wire cutters in your
 st> pocket while walking down a ranch road in Texas?  It's a capital
 st> offense....

Again I wasnt talking about old laws regarding cattle rustling..

Here in Spartanburg SC, City proper, I dont live in the city limits, there is a
law that forbids the consumption of Watermelon at the MAgnolia Street Cemetary.
I assume its a law that the police no longer enforce on a active basis.

I was talking about why some laws have gotten tougher, you ignored the examples
I cited.

 >> You forget that Congress is in DEM hands now (see 2006), get a Obama
 >> and you are gonna give that man as many blank checks as what Bush
 >> got in his first term and half of his second.

 st> So Bam Bam would have an opportunity to get some bills past congress
 st> and not have to battle the Republicans tooth and nail for every little
 st> line item? Actually, that sounds like a 'win-win' situation.  Maybe we
 st> can finally balance the budget..... (again)

No it introduces the same evils that allowed Bush to get himself in quandry..

2001-2007, Bush GOP, Congress GOP majority...

Lets look at Reagan, for the better part of his 2 terms, he had to contend with
a DEM controlled Congress either intoto or in part.

Clinton for the last 3/4 of his 8 years had to contend with a GOP controlled
Congress.

Both he and Reagan were none the worse for wear for the controls that scenario
presented.

Giving a President every thing he wants isnt necessarily a good thing.

==
Ross
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