Text 21950, 85 rader
Skriven 2008-10-15 21:32:40 av Ross Cassell (1:123/456)
  Kommentar till text 21949 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: Socialism in the US of A
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Hello Michiel!

16 Oct 08 02:15, you wrote to me:

 MV>>> Eh..  What an odd question. Abandonning implies accepting that
 MV>>> it disappears or is left behind Is the worls prepaired to
 MV>>> abandon Cuba? Australia? Mexico?

 RC>> China has never formally recognized Taiwan or its right to exist.

 MV> So? Happens all the time. West Germany never formally recognised the
 MV> DDR. Now the two countries are united again. Is that bad?

Germany was split up as a direct result of the Allies agreement to divide the
country.

The DDR was also a mere puppet state of the USSR.

 RC>> If there is any catalyst to provoke China into war, with anybody,
 RC>> it would probably be over Taiwan or even Tibet.

 MV> Or the money that the US owes them which some say is not real...

Perhaps, after all that is why France invaded Mexico in the Mid 19th.

 RC>> Hong Kong was a British possession, ceded back to the people it
 RC>> was taken from, hopefully someday, Spain will get Gibraltar back.

 MV> And Cuba will get back the Gitmo Hotel?

Gitmo was leased to the US by the (then) Govt of Cuba, at the time, we pay them
for the usage of that territory, all that it would take for us to leave is for
us to say we are going to leave, which would break the lease.

Unlike Gibraltar or Hong Kong, Gitmo was not seized as a possession.

 RC>> Would you choose to live under Communist rule?

 MV> I have been across the iron curtain when it still existed. I have seen
[..]
 MV> see. It was not all bad.

I should have known, since Socialism is so interwoven in your society.

 RC>> Has nothing to do with the American Way of life, unless of course
 RC>> you would choose to live under Communist rule, would you?

 MV> A moot point. Communism as it once existed does not exist any more.
 MV> Even the last bastion of classic communism - Cuba - now allows its
 MV> citizens to have InterNet. Yes China is not a democracy western style.
 MV> But is is not the communist country it was under Mao either.

and yet, the Taiwanese have led lives, many for as long as you and I have been
alive, all of their lives, why would they surrender that, unless reunification
meant that mainland China would become like them?

Do I have to remind you of mainland China's human rights difficulties?

 RC>> It is countries like us that has enabled their economy.

 MV> Yeah sure. And that medicine man in Timbatchamegogo makes the sun rise
 MV> every morning....

If they couldnt export, where would they be, dont be naive..

 RC>> How many things considered a technology item around you now, isnt
 RC>> made there Michiel?

 MV> Lots of stuff around here made in China.... True..

and why not in the Nederlands or other places in at least the EU?

 RC>> China exports to more countries than just the USA.

 MV> Exactly. They do not depend on the US for their exports.

We are their biggest customer..

==
Ross
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