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Skriven 2008-10-16 11:29:27 av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
  Kommentar till text 21926 av Lee Lofaso (3:800/432.0)
Ärende: Socialism in the US
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15 Oct 08 10:33, Lee Lofaso wrote to Roy Witt:

 >> LL>The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor was more of a warning to
 >> LL>the USA not to get involved in Asian affairs.  A pinprick, not
 >> LL>intended to really piss off the USA.  Just a reminder.

 RW>> Bullshit. There were two factions in Japan that wanted war. Their
 RW>> idea of how to go about it differed quite a bit.

 LL> No Japanese faction actually wanted war.

Even the Emporer wanted war, reluctant as he was, he only wanted it if the
military would reassure him that they could win against the US. They did a
good job of convincing him.

 LL> What the Japanese wanted was to unite all Asian peoples under the
 LL> Japanese Co-Prosperity Sphere.

Wrong. What they wanted was the land and all of it's resources, to enslave
the natives. You can see their dislike of the people they conquered by how
they treated them. Japan was as ruthless as the Nazi, only on a different
plane.

 LL>  And that meant getting rid of all them evil white folks...

Actually, they only wanted the whites to not interfere with their plans.
Since we, the British and French did, they got rid of them by attrition.

 >> LL>Unfortunately for the Japanese high command, they underestimated
 >> LL>the resolve of FDR - a new kind of Democrat, and a president who
 >> was
 >> LL>no isolationist.

 RW>> Bullshit. Without the congress to pass a war resolution, he was
 RW>> helpless.

 LL> There was no such war resolution.

BS...

Congressional Declaration of War on Japan

December 8, 1941

JOINT RESOLUTION Declaring that a state of war exists between the Imperial
Government of Japan and the Government and the people of the United States
and making provisions to prosecute the same.

Whereas the Imperial Government of Japan has committed unprovoked acts of
war against the Government and the people of the United States of America:

Therefore be it Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled, That the state of war
between the United States and the Imperial Government of Japan which has
thus been thrust upon the United States is hereby formally declared;
and the President is hereby authorized and directed to employ the entire
naval and military forces of the United States and the resources of the
Government to carry on war against the Imperial Government of Japan;
and, to bring the conflict to a successful termination, all of the
resources of the country are hereby pledged by the Congress of the United
States.

Approved, December 8, 1941, 4:10 p.m. E.S.T.

 LL>   All FDR did was give a speech to the Congress informing them that a
 LL> state of war existed between the United States and the Empire of
 LL> Japan.

Formally, he needed to ask the Congress for a declaration of war, but with
the sneak attack on Pearl, it probably wasn't necessary.

 LL>  IOW, both the President and the Congress acknowledged that a state
 LL> of war existed, thus reflecting what the American people already
 LL> knew.

Everybody knew it, but only the Congress can pass a resolution declaring
war.

 RW>> The anger over the sneaky way the Japs attacked PH pissed off a lot
 RW>> of Americans, including the Congressmen who passed the declaration
 RW>> of war.

 LL> There was no such declaration of war.

You're so full of shit, it continuously runs out of your mouth.

                R\%/itt



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