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Skriven 2008-11-27 01:19:54 av Jeff Smith (1:14/5)
  Kommentar till text 23252 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: Loyalties
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Hello Michiel.

06 Nov 08 00:31, you wrote to me:

 MV> Hello Jeff,

 MV> On Wednesday November 05 2008 15:33, you wrote to me:

 MV>>>>> You really think the inspectors were that stupid?

 JS>>>>      Stupid? No. But I doubt they had the knowledge or the
 JS>>>> manpower to watch any back gates.

 MV>>> You are clutching at straws.

 JS>>     Hardly.

 MV> Every time your argument is countered, you come up with a new even
 MV> more far fetched argument. Just to avoid having to admit that the
 MV> simplest explanation for everything is thet there were no WMD's.

     My argument hasn't changed Michiel. Unlike some I don't change
my argument based on my personal dislikes and hatreds.

    I trying to avoid making judgements on what I don't know to be a
fact. Do I know there were no WMD's? No I don't and niether do you.
You are willing to make judgements on what you see in the news. I think
Bush was wrong for claiming WMD's without existing proof of their current
(At the time) existance. Did Bush lie or did he act on intel provided him?
I don't know for sure. But regardless I think he was wrrong for making
the claim without verified proof.


 MV>>>  How much manpower does it take to watch the back door?

 JS>>     Which door? Where? When? How many possible back doors?

 MV> Where? A main gate assumes a fence around a complex. The dimensions of
 MV> the complex must be finite and so is the perimeter. Just drive around
 MV> the fence and one will see the back doors. Or better watch it from the
 MV> air. Mind you, "stockpiles of WMD's" is not something you put in a
 MV> shirt pocket. It takes trucks to carry them off. When? While the door
 MV> knocker is waiting at the front gate of course.

 JS>> It would have been so much easier if the Hussein had simply
 JS>> stated where the back door was and when it would be used.

 MV> That is a tad difficult is there are no WMD's so there is nothing to
 MV> use the back door for.

     And you know this to be a fact how? I thought you didn't believe
that which could not be verified?


 MV> See? There you go again: you already assume that there is a back door
 MV> that will be used. You are convinced there were WMD's and are
 MV> desperately looking for scenarios to explain why they were not found.
 MV> You are simple refusing to accept the simplest explanation of them
 MV> all: they were not found because they were not there.

    Simply Google "WMD's in Iraq" Michiel. There is plenty of info from a
number of sources to suggest or directly state the existance of and the
desire of Hussein to aquire WMD's. Hell, he even used them on his own
people.


 MV>  Because that
 MV> would imply your elected president lied to you and you are not willing
 MV> to accept that unconveniemt truth.

 MV>>> You are once again mixing up cause and effect.

 MV>>> I do not believe Bush lied because I dislike him. I dislike him
 MV>>> because he lied,

    I also dislike Bush for his use of WMD's as a reason for the war in
Iraq.


 MV> You OTOH, were convinced that Saddam lied when he claimed that there
 MV> were no WMD's because you disliked him.

    No Michiel. You little "Twister" you.  There is plenty of info available
to suggest the existance of WMD's in Iraq. I disliked Hussein for his brutal
dictatorship of Iraq and the torture and killing of anyone that he fealt
didn't blindly and totally support him. Again the proof is there for all to
see. If one is willing to see that is.

 MV> Cheers, Michiel

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Jeff

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