Text 24191, 117 rader
Skriven 2008-11-27 23:16:14 av Lee Lofaso (3:800/432.0)
  Kommentar till text 24166 av Jeff Smith (1:14/5)
Ärende: The New National Anthem
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Hello Jeff,

>MV>And it is not working. There is more terrorism then ever. it
>MV>islike fighting the Hydra. Every time you chop off a head, two
>MV>more appear. You can not defeat the Hydra with a sword.

>JS>Nor can you defeat it by ignoring it. The real solution is to make
>JS>it want to stop and go elsewhere. Terrorists survive because they
>JS>are offered support and a home. If those were no longer
>JS>offered.....

>LL>Saddam Hussein never offered refuge for al-Qaeda.

JS>Refuge? Not that I am aware of.

You contradictred yourself by your following comments -

JS>But back 1998 Bin Laden did make a trip to Iraq.

Unsupported and unsubstantiated.  IOW, it didn't happen.

JS>Also in 1998 two of Bin Laden's military commanders made a trip
JS>to Iraq to consult with Saddam's son Qusay on intelligence matters.

Unsupported and unsubstantiated.  IOW, it didn't happen.

JS>By the end of 1998 Hussein reportetly came to the conclusion
JS>based on input fron his son Qusay. That input being the result of Qusay's
JS>dialog with Al-Queda commanders. Iraqi intelligence then reportedly met
JS>with Bin-Laden to discuss an allience and plans for future coordinated
JS>terrorist attacks against the US.

Unsupported and unsubstantiated.  IOW, it didn't happen.

JS>There is plenty of reason Lee to see support or at least cooperation
JS>between Hussein and Bin-Laden.

None that I could find.  None that others could find.  Except perhaps
George W. Bush, who is a victim of the figments of his own imagination.

>LL>What good did it do him?  His country was still invaded,

JS>The Iraqwar was based on several reasons.

The reason for the invasion of Iraq was because Bush ordered it.

JS>Only one of which was the Hussein/Al-Queda connection.

There was no Hussein/al-Qaeda connection.

>LL>his regime ousted, his own neck placed in a noose by
>LL>what amounts to a Shiite hit squad, and hanged.

JS>Wasn't that after he was tried and found quilty by an Iraqi court?

Saddam was tried and found guilty by a kangaroo court, then hanged
by a Shiite hit squad.

JS>Based on Hussein's dictatorship and treatment of his own people.

Sunnis thought they were treated quite well, and had no reason
to want Hussein hanged.

JS>Did you really expect any other end for Hussein?

By having Saddam executed, Bush made him a martyr - the holy grail
of all Muslims.

>LL>George W. Bush's madcap misadventure in Iraq opened the door for
>LL>al-Qaeda to move in.  It also allowed al-Qaeda (as well as the
>LL>Taliban) to regroup in Afghanistan and expand into Pakistan.

JS>Hussein opened the the door and offered support to Al-Queda prior
JS>to that time Lee.

Unsupported and unsubstantiated.  IOW, it didn't happen.

JS>Al-Queda has had plenty of time to spread themselves
JS>around quietly in a number of countries.

Thanks to George W. Bush.

>LL>Pakistan has nukes.

>LL>What will the world be like when Osama bin Laden gets his hands
>LL>on The Bomb?  Terrorists do not need missiles to launch nukes.
>LL>Nor do terrorists need airplanes to launch nukes.  A truck would
>LL>do for short distances, a ship would do for long distances.
>LL>Along with a handful of suicide bombers, each equipped with
>LL>a little red button.

JS>Agreed. Your statement above clearly illustrates why terrorists
JS>should be dealt with and elliminated whenever possible.

The Unabomber is alive and well.
So is the guy who bombed the Atlanta Olympics.

JS>Preferably without killing people if possible.

Tell that to the Branch Davidians.

JS>As I have already stated terrorist qroups need a home and support
JS>to grow and spread.

There are several here in the U.S. of A.

JS>Working to take that away is the IMHO the better choice.

You gonna take their guns away?  I don't think so...

--Lee


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