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Skriven 2008-12-19 16:54:47 av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
  Kommentar till text 25172 av Ward Dossche (2:292/854)
Ärende: Attitudes
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18 Dec 08 23:40, Ward Dossche wrote to Roy Witt:


 RW>> A 747, as you're well aware, is no military aircraft.

 WD> The VC-25's with tailnumbers 28000 and 29000 are definitely military.

This one didn't have those numbers.

 WD> When the POTUS is on board you will know them as 'Air Force One'.

LOL! Not only that but it also displays the Presidents seal...Although, no
POTUS would fly into Russian air space without an escort and informing the
Kremlin, or whoever takes care of these things over there.

 RW>> Semantics: "it was shot down by a soviet fighter." - Boris Yeltsen

 WD> A Sukhoi is not a MIG.

It's a soviet fighter. A MIG was called in for support.

 RW>> How were South Korean civilians involved in that war?

 WD> Because of the AWACS that was in the neighbourhood. The US AWACS that
 WD> is.

No...they were shot down because they failed to respond to visual contact,
radio hails and gunfire (4, 30-round bursts of 20mm cannon) from the
Soviet persuit planes. The pilots of the two Su-15s recognized the
aircraft and it's KAL markings. The aircraft had flown into Soviet
airspace and it was shot down as it left it for the 2nd time. The two
soviet interceptors fired two air/air missles. Transcripts from the KAL
cockpit voice recorder indicate that the crew were unaware that they were
off course.

The Russian General the Soviet pilots were talking to, said this:

Gen. Kornukov: "Oh, [expletives] how long does it take him to get into
attack position, he is already getting out into neutral waters. Engage
afterburner immediately. Bring in the MiG 23 as well... While you are
wasting time it will fly right out."

General Valeri Kamenski, Commander of Air Defense Forces for the Far East
Military District, "...simply destroy [it] even if it is over neutral
waters? Are the orders to destroy it over neutral waters? Oh, well."

And in fact, the KAL flight crashed in neutral waters.

This is in comparison to the Iranian aircraft that was shot down as it
left Iranian airspace, heading directly for the Vincennes. It didn't reply
to orders to change it's heading, nor threats of firing on it either.

                R\%/itt

PS - the US interceptors in the area recorded what happened.


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