Text 26002, 125 rader
Skriven 2009-01-12 19:13:00 av Lee Lofaso (3:800/432.0)
  Kommentar till text 25969 av Jeff Smith (1:14/5)
Ärende: Tit For Tat
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Hello Jeff,

>RC>Except that this echo, had its listing lapse, Jack Yates
>RC>listed, passed it over to Shannon Talley, then Shannon
>RC>passed it onto me.

JS>Maybe you should preface your statement with something
JS>like "While I can only speak for myself"?

Ross made a comment, totally unsupported and unsubstantiated.
I called him on it.  You don't like it, and are having a hissy.

JS>While I am sure there are some that will agree. Your
JS>translation is simply that. YOUR translation.

And easily understood by everyone.

>LL>Translation - Jack Yates allowed the elisting to lapse, Shannon
>LL>Talley hijacked the echotag, then Shannon Talley handed the echotag
>LL>over to Ross Cassell.

JS>If Jack passed the password over to Shannon.

There is no "if" about anything.  But let's suppose, for the sake
of argument, that Jack did pass the password over to Shannon.  What
does it matter?  It is still irrelevant, given that Thom LaCosta's
private elisting has no official status in fido.

JS>How did Shannon hijack it?

By relisting it after Jack allowed the elisting to lapse.  That
is not a criminal act, or anything close.  Some folks leave fido
without bothering to pass the password to anybody else.  As a
result, the elisting lapses and somebody else relists the echo.
Some folks make it into some sort of game, trying to see how
many echotags they can collect.  I think Bobby Queen holds the
record, but I could be wrong.  Maybe Bob Hoffman topped him.
Or Allen Prunty.

>LL>After all, Jack Yates made no public announcement that he had passed
>LL>the elisting to Shannon Talley.  Nor has there been any mention by
>LL>Shannon Talley of any private message having been received from Jack
>LL>Yates to that effect.

JS>And this is particularly unusual?

There is nothing unusual about an individual losing interest
in fido.  Happens all the time.  Jack left, having other, better
and more important things to do.

>LL>Thom LaCosta's private elisting is not recognized as having any
>LL>official status in fido.  Nor is any other elisting (private or
>LL>otherwise) recognized as having any official status in fido.
>LL>As such, the collection of echotags is just that.  A collection
>LL>of echotags.

JS>And your point is?

Thom LaCosta's private elisting is meaningless.

JS>An elist doesn't have to be "Official" to be used now does it?

No elisting, including Thom LaCosta's private elisting, has any
official status in fido.  Elistings are inaccurate, can easily be
misused, and are.

JS>As with most things in Fidonet. Some use the elist
JS>and others don't. Again no big suprize. So... Again, whats your point?

All elistings, as well as Thom LaCosta's private elisting, are
totally meaningless.  No elisting is totally accurate, and some
may be extremely inaccurate.  Elistings are also easy targets
for abuse and misuse.  Which is one of the reasons why no
elisting, regardless of how well-intentioned an elisting might
be, should have any official status in fido.

>LL>I am not sure as to who has the most echotags as of this writing.
>LL>It might be Allen Prunty.  It might be Ross Cassell.  It might be
>LL>Thom Lacosta himself.  It might be somebody else.  But regardless
>LL>of who is the echotag king, Bjorn Felten remains the one and only
>LL>editor/moderator of the fidonews echo, as listed and posted by
>LL>Bjorn Felten himself, in the rules for the fidonews echo.

JS><chuckle> Per an agreement between Bjorn and Cassell they both
JS>moderate this echo.

And just as meaningless as Thom LaCosta's private elisting, being
that such "agreements" or "secret deals" have no part in fido.

>RC>Except for a few Chicken Littles on both sides of the big
>RC>pond, the arrangement Bjorn and I have works as well as can
>RC>be expected.

>LL>Same-sex arrangements/marriages are like that.

JS>Your starting to worry me there Lee.

Same-sex arrangements/marriages are just as meaningless as
Thom LaCosta's private elisting.

>LL>However, like Thom LaCosta's private elist, same-sex
>LL>arrangements/marriages are not recognized as having any
>LL>official status in fido.

JS>Why would Fidonet care about same sex anything?

You do realize what FIDO stands for?  Freaks, Irregulars, Defects,
Oddities.  As such, Fidonet should care very much.  After all, it's
their baby.

JS>Hmmm... If one of them was female would you feel better about it? <g>

Oops.  I left myself open for that one...

JS>Alright, which one is more likely for a sex-change operation?

That depends if Dr. Frank 'N' Furter can be found.  :)

--Lee


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