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Text 26506, 77 rader
Skriven 2009-01-20 15:35:27 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
     Kommentar till en text av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
Ärende: The first of many to come
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Hello Roy,

On Monday January 19 2009 17:31, you wrote to me:

 MvdV>> That one is easy. Just treat them like any other suspect.

 RW> To do so, they would have to be released from Gitmo and housed
 RW> somewhere in the US, which gives them the same rights as someone who's
 RW> arrested for armed robbery.

If that is what your laws say, then that is how it is, isn't it?

 RW> If they do that, then if they're aquited (by some magical miriacle),
 RW> they would be released to roam the streets of the US,

Same as when a suspect of an armed robbery is aquited.  The problem?

 RW> which is unacceptable to American society.

Why? Does not you constitution say that all are equal for the law? Irrespective
of skin colour, religion, culture, etc, etc? Why does American society have a
problem with upholding their own constitution?

Anyway, you guys should have thought of that before taking these people in your
custody.

 RW> 60 percent of those who were released to their home country have been
 RW> found fighting in Iraq or Afghanistan against allied forces.

And you know this how?

 MvdV>>  And if that means having to let them go, then they will have
 MvdV>> to be let go.

 RW> I propose that if they're let go, they be released in your country.

Denied. We have enough problems with immigrants as it is. You solve your own.

 MvdV>> Those are the rules in a civilised society and there can be no
 MvdV>> exceptions.

 RW> In that case, when will be the earliest convenient date for their
 RW> release in Holland?

See above. Hold your own pants.

 MvdV>> If you can not convince a court that someone has committed a
 MvdV>> crime and deserves to be locked up, then you have to let him
 MvdV>> go.

 RW> Their guilt isn't in question.

In that case there should be no problem getting them convicted in court.

 MvdV>> That is what makes the difference bewteen a civilised country
 MvdV>> and a suppressive dictatorship.

 RW> Then you accept the proposal and are now a spokesman for your
 RW> government in accepting the released prisoners. I'll let my government
 RW> know that you've taken the lead in this and have them get in touch.

Can you show a document with my signature where I authorise you to act as my
spokesman?

 MvdV>> May I point out that ignoring the above is what created the
 MvdV>> problem in the first place?

 RW> You may, but I don't have to believe you're telling the truth.

You don't have to believe that the earth is not flat either. But it won't
restore your credibility if you remain in denial.


Cheers, Michiel

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