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Text 27805, 63 rader
Skriven 2009-02-23 09:52:33 av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
  Kommentar till text 27774 av Ward Dossche (2:292/854)
Ärende: 11yr old with a shotgun
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23 Feb 09 10:36, Ward Dossche wrote to Joe Delahaye:

 JD>> >  WD> Completely legal ... and nothing is wrong with the system?
 JD>> >
 JD>> > It's not legal for an 8yo kid to own a firearm, anywhere in the
 JD>> states.

 JD>> How about an 11 year old?

 WD> Roy was referring to that case in Arizona where an 8yr old kid shot
 WD> and killed his dad and his dad's friend a while ago.

For what reason? Perhaps it was the 1,000 spankings that did it. That adds
up to one spanking every 3 days of his life. How many spankings must an
8yo endure? Was that kid that bad that his father had to spank him that
often? I think even 100 spankings in 8 years is child abuse!

 WD> He was just on trial I think last week and tried very much like an
 WD> adult with a plea-bargain where he admitted guilt.

Apache County Attorney Criss Candelaria wrote that he has "tendered a plea
offer to the juvenile's attorneys that would resolve all the charges in
the juvenile court contingent on the results of the mental health
evaluations."

Question: how can an 8yo understand a plea bargain, especially an 8yo who
had earlier been determined to be 'not fit for trial'?

 WD> Now that is a completely screwed system.

Yeah, in Belgum they only slap 8yo kid's hands and send them to the
nursery, where they're slaughtered by a crazed "KNIFEMAN" with a 9"
butcher knife.

In Arizona, those convicted as juveniles can be held only until they turn
18yo in a juvenile facility. The law also allows prosecutions of juveniles
age 8 and above as adults, depending on the crime.

 WD> First allowing access to fire-arms to an 8 yr old and and then
 WD> agreeing that such a kid has the mental faculties to understand what
 WD> a plea-bargain is and what follows from that.

He wasn't 'allowed' access to the gun...

 WD> The boy used a hunting rifle that his dad had bought him for his
 WD> birthday.

That hunting rifle was a .22 caliber, single shot, bolt action, junior
target rifle. It takes a bit of time to fire, shoot and then reload that
rifle. How does an 8yo attack two adults and come out on top? What was the
2nd victim doing after he heard the first shot? Running away from an 8yo
kid!? I'm not convinced that the kid did it, let alone that he could do it
under the circumstances described.

                R\%/itt


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