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Text 28216, 170 rader
Skriven 2009-02-28 11:49:54 av David Drummond (3:640/305)
  Kommentar till text 28185 av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
Ärende: 11yr old with a shotgun
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Roy Witt -> David Drummond wrote:

 DD>>>> Correct, I choose not to live in a country ruled by such a regime -
 RW>>> Not exactly.
 DD>> Yes exactly. I choose to live in this country.

 RW> Unfortunately for you, you chose a country with a worse regime than the
 RW> one you constantly complain about, but does not affect you at all.

Of course that country with the worse regime than Australia affects me! My
taxes go to support the military that Australia is shamed into using to support
wars that USA started.

The US DCMA legislation is bleeding through to here, that affects me to.

 DD>>>> oh, and I'm not Jewish.
 RW>>> You didn't have to be Jewish to be carted off to a concentration
 RW>>> camp.

 DD>> If you say so. There are no such camps in this country, even for
 DD>> those of the Jewish faith.

 RW> Today is the 76th anniversery of the fire that gutted the German
 RW> parliament building, the Reichstag, which Chancellor Adloph Hitler,
 RW> blaming the Communists, used the fire as justification for suspending
 RW> civil liberties.  That can happen anywhere that a wannabe dictator lives.

Aren't you lucky that Dubya has stood down.

 RW> Not only did they imprison suspected communists, but anyone with a
 RW> political view not in alignment with the NAZI party. Speak out against
 RW> such a regime there as you do here and they'd throw away the key.

Where as in USA one just gets vilified and badmouthed in the media. That does
not happen here.

 RW>>>>> You both have only heard fairy tale stories about it.

 DD>>>> Where as you actually live in such a country where draconian
 DD>>>> regimes run the place.

 RW>>> I don't live in Europe.

 DD>> That's right, you live in USA, a country renowned for its draconian
 DD>> government.

 RW> On the contrary, a country known for is vast freedoms. You might be
 RW> thinking of the Euros for draconian governments, or Australia, whose
 RW> influenced by those same draconian regimes. Queen Elizebeth doesn't reside
 RW> in America, she resides in Europe.

Nope, I'm thinking about the USA regime where persons whom the regime doesn't
like are locked away, virtually forever where no-one can help them.

 RW>>>>> If the Nazi were to take the entire family, both of you would
 RW>>>>> probably thank them rather than think about shooting the bastards.

 DD>>>> There is no Nazi party in this country, those nutters have all
 DD>>>> moved to USA. You concept is moot.

 RW>>> So the Australian Nazi Party doesn't exist, dawn unda? Or is it they
 RW>>> don't exist when it's convenient for you to deny them?

 DD>> If they exist they keep a very low key.

 RW> LOL! A so-called master of the internet and you don't know about
 RW> Australian NAZI party websites.

ROFL. Who called me a 'master of the Internet"???? Did you read that on one of
your web sites?

Just because the Australia NAZI party may have a web site does not make then
present in every day politics in this country.

 DD>> No sign of them on any election posters, no street marches, no sign
 DD>> on most voting slips. The Nazis are not a viable political parry in
 DD>> this country.

 RW> The point is, in spite of your previous denial, they do exist. Thanks for
 RW> playing that game.

I said they do not exist as a viable political party. I stand by that.

 RW>>>>> If you were an American, there's no fear of that happening.

 DD>>>> Being American didn't help the Chileans when Augusto Pinochet did
 DD>>>> his thing.

 RW>>> They weren't Americans. As you pointed out, they were Chileans.

 DD>> Chile IS in America.

 RW> No it isn't. It's in South America...

And USA is in North America, your point?

 RW> they're not called Americans though,
 RW> they're called Chileans, even by their neighbors in South America.

Collectively they are all called "Americans" even by themselves and their
neighbours in South America.

Break out of your little bubble and go and have a look. Be careful that they
don't do away with you though, the majority are not too enamoured with the evil
USA.
[...]

 RW>>> They're still trying to legally oust Ceasar Chevez, in South
 RW>>> America. That will probably come to the use of firearms if he
 RW>>> doesn't go peacefully. Mexico is on the verge of political collapse
 RW>>> because of the drug lords and in spite of the law, they own
 RW>>> firearms. Probably more than the government. They're citizens...

 DD>> I don't know any Caesar Chevez. Hugo Chevez

 RW> Sorry. Got my DICTATORS mixed up. Caesar Chevez was a liberal Mexican who
 RW> unionized the illegal alien field workers in California. Nowadays known as
 RW> La Raza...

 DD>>  of Venezuela seems to be liked well enough among the other
 DD>> countries.

 RW> Sure...as long as he stays in his own back yard. His next door neighbors
 RW> in Columbia don't like him at all.

But they hate the USA even more. Chevez is the lesser of the two evils.

 DD>> The seem to hold anyone who won't kowtow to the US in high regard.

 RW> They also seem to like migrating to the US...odd that you would think they
 RW> hate it here!

The ones migrating are not the majority, the ones that hate the USA. However
bad USA is, there are obviously those who think themselves worse off, and will
settle for anything, even life in USA.

If they could make the distance across the Pacific, more would come here in
favour of USA.

 DD>> The situation in Mexico is another good example of what happens when
 DD>> the masses get firearms. Like USA they start shooting each other.

 RW> LOL! Mexicans aren't allowed to have firearms by law. None! Nada! Yet,
 RW> they seem to have as many as can be imported from places who make AK-47s -
 RW> like China.

Probably come in Via the US-Mexican border. USA like to fuck around in others'
affairs like that.

 RW> Of course, the peon mentality is, when you have a firearm you're kin to
 RW> God and can do no wrong. 'Everything in sight belongs to me, I'll just
 RW> take it and kill the owner.'

Yes, we see that attitude in USA often.

 RW> They're more like Australians who've never had the freedom to think for
 RW> themselves, instead relying on propaganda spewed by their muslim heroes.

ROFL - the average Australian doesn't have a lot of time for Muslims.

-- 

regards

David

http://www.jabberwocky.com.au/southamerica

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