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Skriven 2009-03-06 06:59:17 av Joe Bruchis (1:3828/12.0)
  Kommentar till text 28622 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
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Michiel van der Vlist wrote in a message to Joe Bruchis:


 JB> But what if there is an afterlife?

 MvdV> Then I will cross that bridge when I get to it. If there is an
 MvdV> afterlife there is no way to tell how it weill be, so there is no
 MvdV> way to prepaire for it. So I will just make the best of the here
 MvdV> and now.

 JB> Will you still deny it after you are dead? What if everyone in Fidonet
 JB> shows up as spirits and reads your atheist rhetoric to you for all
 JB> eternity?

 MvdV> I will use the "next" key...

ROTFL

 JB> One must consider these things when deciding what he believes.

 MvdV> "Deciding what one believes"??

 MvdV> What one believes is not a matter of decision. One believes or
 MvdV> one doesn't. beliefs are irrational, hence not subject to
 MvdV> rational decision. 

I can decide to accept or reject a belief. I do it all the time.  Believe me.
 
JB> I have in my heart a warmth and a bond with a spiritual form or 
JB> being
 JB> I assume is God. It may just be a psychological manifestation of some
 JB> sort, but I truly believe it is a force of good that's within me.

 MvdV> if that is what you believe....

Exactly.

 JB> I am free to choose who I help.

 MvdV> Now that you mention it: I think free will is largely an
 MvdV> illusion. 

 MvdV> There is scientific evidence to support that. It appeeras we make
 MvdV> choices before we become aware of what we have choosen.

I guess any state of mind can be considered an illusion.  After all, everything
we do is just chemical reactions in our brains causing us to act or not act,
and our muscles to react or not react. Once a scientist brings everything down
to that level, there's nothing human remaining.  I don't "believe" that's how
it's "meant" to be.  It can be explained in that manner, but that's a very
lifeless way to live.

 JB> If you don't feel it, what can I say except you don't feel it.

 MvdV> I don't.

I'm sorry.

Do you love your wife?  If so, why?

Is that a decision you made? If so, based on what?

Can you play blues guitar? (-:

 JB> Very true. Your afterlife may be the memories held by your love ones
 JB> that lives on after you are gone. Again, my rule of helping others
 JB> will allow positive memories of you by others to live on for
 JB> generations. Possibly for centuries, depending on what you have done
 JB> that is good in your life.

 MvdV> Lots of people are remembered for the bad things they have
 MvdV> done... 

I knew you'd go there...

 MvdV> Cheers, Michiel

Really? Cheers? Naw...   

More like anguish and depression.

Regards,

 Joe 
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