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Skriven 2009-03-10 11:07:44 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
     Kommentar till en text av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
Ärende: OK, Vlist claims that there is no God! LOL!
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Hello Roy,

On Monday March 09 2009 13:46, you wrote to me:
 RW>>>>> Why do Catholics think that the Pope represents God on Earth?
[..]
 RW> I put the question mark there for you to answer, I already know the
 RW> answer.

That is how you confuse people. Asking question when you already know the
answer.

 RW>>> Einstein was a Jew.

 MvdV>> So?

 RW> Buttons on your underwear. You claimed that the Jews weren't as smart
 RW> as the Catholics...

I made no such claim. reading comprehension Roy. What I wrote was:
 MvdV>>> So no, it does not look like the Jews are smarter.

 RW> in reality, at least one Jew was smarter than all the Catholics put
 RW> together.

Only in your imagination.

 MvdV>> First, I think Einstein is overrated. His theory of relativity
 MvdV>> is a beauty, but he was standing on the shoulders of giants.

 RW> Really? Einstein's brain had no speech lobe and didn't speak for the
 RW> first 5 years of his life. Meanwhile, the part of the brain that
 RW> allows one to think grew to the point that his brain was much wider
 RW> than a normal brain.

Bulshit.

 RW> His theory of relativity came at the ripe old age of 19...he
 RW> published over 300 scientific works and over 150 non-scientific works.

The raw numbers doe not mean all that much. Every message I write here is an
"article" as well. All in all I may have written more raw text than Einstein. A
more meaningful figure is the citation index. Now go Google for "citation
index".

 MvdV>> He got nowhere with his Grand Unification Theory and his views
 MvdV>> on quantum mechanics were way off. His social life was a mess,
 MvdV>> he was very difficult person to live with.

 RW> Meanwhile, he was a success in everything else of the 300+ other
 RW> things that he did.

Hardly. What else is he know for other than his theory of light emission on and
his theories of relativity?

The fact is Roy that after his theories of relativity he did not much more than
just being famous.

 RW> I like this quote from his biographer, Don Howard. "to the
 RW> scientifically literate (supposedly you) and the public at
 RW> large, Einstein is synonymous with genius."

His biographer has it wrong. The public likes idols. The want to be able to
name someone as the greatest artist, singe, painter, scientist of all times.
They choose Einstein as their idol because he got so much publicity over a
theory that they did not understand.

The scientifically literate know better. The special theory of relativity is
not hard at all to understand for anyone with a bachelor in physics. The real
beauty is that it is so extremey simple!

Quantum mechanics and string theory are a lot harder to fathom.

 RW>>> They are wrong in that belief.

 MvdV>> No more than al the others who believe something else.

 RW> Note that of the three western religions we're talking about, two
 RW> follow the clean food, dirty food teachings of their brand of religion
 RW> and a few of the third religion do as well.

So? Because they act as lemmings, does it mean that they are not wrong in their
beliefs?

 MvdV>>  It is all myth.

 RW> Or real...your choice.

If it walks like a duck...


 RW>>> The last words in the Bible state something on the order of: if
 RW>>> you add anything to or change anything in this book, God will add
 RW>>> onto those who do, the plagues that are written in this book.

 MvdV>> Yeah, one considers a book as authoritative, because the very
 MvdV>> same book book says it is the word of God and Goid is the
 MvdV>> ultimate authority. Nice piece of circular reasoning...

 RW> That book also tells them that their God wrote it.

Well, you can't  argue with that can you? ;-)

 MvdV>>>> Not ALL Muslims. There is diversity within the Muslim
 MvdV>>>> faith...

 RW>>> No doubt, but 'real' orthodox Muslims do adhere to that
 RW>>> practice.

 MvdV>> And who decides what are the "real" orthgodox Muslims?

 RW> The original orthodox Muslims.

Of course. Another self declared truth.

 MvdV>> Seems to me they have the same problem as the myriad of Christinan
 MvdV>> branches that all claim the they and only they are the true
 MvdV>> believers.

 RW> They all believe in the same God,

Or so they believe..

 RW>  it's just their methods of worship that are different.

How can the same god demand different, mutually exclusive, ways of worshipping
to different groups of believers and encourage them to fight over it?

Seems like a stupid strategy, to encourage the worshippers to kill each other.

 MvdV>> The Christians that have more than one wife believe it has the
 MvdV>> fiat of their God of course.

 RW> There was never an order by God to polygamize.

Tere was never an order against it either.

 MvdV>> So accrding to their own rules, they do not live in sin.

 RW> According to the law of the land, they do. That goes as far back as
 RW> Roman law, which also outlawed polygamy.

People have been ignoring the law of the land when it souits them and they
think they cab get away with ever since there were laws of the land.

 MvdV>> The sin is only in the eyes of the others who believe God will
 MvdV>> only sanction mmonogameus mariages.

 RW> 1 Timothy 3:2, " A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one
 RW> wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to
 RW> teach;"

That applies to the bishop, not to the flock.

 MvdV>>>> Someone not living too far from here lost his life because
 MvdV>>>> he expressed his views on that...

 RW>>> How so?

 MvdV>> Theo van Gogh. he claimed the Muslim culture was a backward
 MvdV>> culture and thet muslims were goat fuckers. he was killed by a
 MvdV>> muslim extermist. I think he was wrong about the goat part...

 RW> Ahhh yes, the Village Idiot.

Even the village idiot has the right of free speech.

 RW> Reading his history of saying things that would piss off everyone who
 RW> read him,

Not everyone. Even so, pissing off is part and parcel of the right to free
speech. If pissing off was an excuse for murder, you'd be dead.

 RW>  he was an assassination waiting to happen.

Then so are you.

 MvdV>> Are you sure? I have a suspicion it will boring. Nothing much
 MvdV>> happening up there.

 RW> I was told some 45 years ago that if God thought my 1955 Chevy was a
 RW> good thing, it'd be there waiting for me if I so desired.

And will there be fuel for it?

 RW> Hopefully, there'll be a dragstrip too and I can spend eternity
 RW> racing others like myself.

Racing for eternity will get boring very quickly I think. Especially if you
always win.

 MvdV>> Plus that I foresee some ... eh .. complications. Having to
 MvdV>> deal for 20+ cats might be the least of them...

 RW> Only if you desire them to be with you...:o)

What if they all desire to be with me?

Cheers, Michiel

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