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Text 29192, 65 rader
Skriven 2009-03-14 12:55:42 av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
  Kommentar till text 29169 av David Drummond (3:640/305)
Ärende: Stealing land (was: Gun law efficacy)
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David Drummond wrote to Robert Bashe on Saturday March 14 2009 at 17:28:

RB>>>> So what are the whites doing there? That's all Aborigine land.

DD>>> It is NOT Aboriginal land. Ownership of land is a white concept, the
DD>>> indigenous peoples lived with the land.

RB>> So to steal the native's land, all you have to do is just re-define
RB>> the meaning of "ownership" ;-)

DD> Nope no theft on my behalf - I purchased my land all legal like
DD> (according to the white fella's rules anyway)

So you bought stolen property. In Germany, you have no title to stolen property
and have to give it up without compensation, even if bought in good faith. In
Australia, the laws are apparently different.

DD> Australia was "terra nullus" when the white folks came here - there
DD> were no humans living here.

Except, of course, the Aborigines, who don't count... nice try.

RB>> Not bad... almost as good as the "civilization" of Aborigine children
RB>> by taking them from their parents and raising them in a white
RB>> household - that was popular around the turn of the last century.

DD> Any later than that too. Most of those kids were better off than if
DD> they'd been left with their folks - as are the ones being removed from
DD> their families now.

Thanks for confirming my suspicion.

DD> Culture is all a load of shit when 10 year old girls are bartering sex
DD> for booze and cigarettes, and then participating in a gang bang..

Hey, it's _their_ culture_, not yours. Maybe they don't like what you do
either. Go out and piss on Ayres Rock, see what they say to that. I read that's
a holy place for them.

RB>> Now, my idea is not to put down Australia, as I hope you've already
RB>> guessed, but I do object to pointing fingers when none of us is
RB>> really clean - the old "he who is without sin throw the first stone"
RB>> kind of stuff, you know.

DD> I do not throw stones - and my sins are minimal (depending on your
DD> definition of sin). [...]

Lucky you added the last point. However, this business about "not throwing
stones" must be a joke. You do that all the time.

DD> I know not one person personally (and I have met quite a few in the
DD> last 57 years) ho has been motivated to murder.

RB>> Believe what you want and just hope you'll never get into a position
RB>> where your beliefs are tested. Most of us don't, luckily.

DD> I live in a culture/country where the likelihood is so slim as to to
DD> be non-existent.

Like I say, believe what you want and hope for the best.

Cheers, Bob

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