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Skriven 2009-04-03 11:41:26 av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
  Kommentar till text 30703 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: How the US will split
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02 Apr 09 23:30, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Roy Witt:

 RW>> There is no obligation.

 MvdV>>> The only way to correct that is for Texas to accept
 MvdV>>> responsibility and pay their fair share.

 RW>> There is no fair share if one does not play their game.

 MvdV> By joining the union, one has agreed to play the game.

Wrong. The game changed after the fact and a member still has a choice of
not playing along.

 MvdV> In another message age you mentioned paying child support to en ex.
 MvdV> So I gather the powers that be decided you had to contribute your
 MvdV> fair share of the cost of raising the child.

Duhhhh. The court order was what the ex and I agreed upon. They had to
have a record of it, nothing more.

 MvdV> That may not be what you consider fair, but tt does not make it go
 MvdV> away.

Nor would I want it to.

 MvdV> If you refuse to pay, there will be consequences.

Wrong. If I refused to pay, the ex would be asking me why, not the court.
i.e. I paid her, not the court.

 MvdV> The divorce does not free you from the running obligations that
 MvdV> came with th marriage.

Duhhhhh. It does. For instance, I wasn't charged to pay for the freezer
and it's contents that she ordered while I wasn't living in the same
house. I also wasn't responsible for the gas and electric bills that she
didn't pay with the money I provided for that. Subsequently, the power
company shut off her gas and electric, not mine. And even though her
attorney told her that he'd get me to pay or else, she knew I was as
stubborn as a Dutchman and wouldn't, no matter the consequences, so she
refused to allow him to persue it further.

 MvdV> Suerkey someting similair applies to states leaving the union.

Wrong. Texas isn't responsible to the feds for federal taxes owed by her
citizens. The burden of payback doesn't fall on the state, but the
taxpayers.

 RW>> The federal government does not represent the people. It represents
 RW>> itself as an Excutive, Legislative and Judicial branch, and is
 RW>> supposed to do so under the auspices of the US Constitution and the
 RW>> laws set up by the people's representatives in federal government
 RW>> legislative sessions.

 MvdV> Talk, talk, talk, talk. It will not make the obligation to pay your
 MvdV> fair share go away.

If we're no longer obligated to the US, i.e. no longer obligated to US
law, how do they collect? Suppose they taxed Dutchmen, would you pay up?

 MvdV>>> IOUs from the texas treasury are no good. See above.

 RW>> They're as good as the gold that will back them...see above.

 MvdV> If that is so, you should not have a problem with me taking the
 MvdV> gold so that you cab have the IOU's.

As long as you're willing to leave both of your nuts as the IOU.

 MvdV>>> Indeed the rest will have to pay more. Which of course they
 MvdV>>> will not find acceptable, with "serious consequences" as a
 MvdV>>> result.

 RW>> Yeah...they might get the same idea and join us. That isn't unlikely
 RW>> as they weigh the consequences of paying such a crazy debt and going
 RW>> down with that sinking ship.

 MvdV> And you think the rest of the world wil continue to finance your
 MvdV> overspending after such a stunt? Dream on...

LOL! You're certaintly in the dark on world spending ideas. The G20 just
advised the world that they're in agreement on the $1.2 trillion they all
conspired to give away. Not only our taxes, but yours too will go into
that.

 RW>>>> Ask Ward...he seems to think as many of us do about it.

 MvdV>>> And you think that "thinking like many of us" makes him an
 MvdV>>> authority in my perception?

 RW>> You seem to follow his lead in a lot of things. Especially if you're
 RW>> on the same side of a Euro v American debate.

 MvdV> I do not follow him, but ever so often we walk the same path. Great
 MvdV> minds often think alike.

I'd leave out 'great' if I were you...it has nothing to do with your
reputations.

 MvdV>>> Lean meat is more healthy. And so many people prefer lean meat
 MvdV>>> and as a result they will acquire a taste for it.

 RW>> The other way to look at it: eat less fatty meat and be happy or eat
 RW>> more lean meat and be unhappy.

 MvdV> I am quit happy eating lean meat.

Good for you...may your happiness equate to high cholesterol...

 RW>>>> You've already stated that.

 MvdV>>> You don't seem to believe it.

 RW>> I don't recall saying that I don't believe it.

 MvdV> Alzheimer setting in?

You're probably less aware of that than I, perhaps you should look into
getting it treated.

                R\%/itt




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