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Text 31133, 49 rader
Skriven 2009-04-11 08:32:20 av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
  Kommentar till text 31071 av Peter Knapper (3:772/1.0)
Ärende: Bank Security
=====================
Peter Knapper wrote to Robert Bashe on Friday April 10 2009 at 14:54:

RB>> Roy is in Texas. And for whatever reasons, NOBODY is willing to
RB>> provide a URL where is specifically says that you CAN change the ATM
RB>> PIN on your bank card/Visa card or whatever. I personally know that
RB>> this is NOT possible in Germany. You have to replace the card.

PK> Thats the whole Point in this part of the world Rob, one CANNOT do it
PK> via the internet, one HAS to appear in person at a place of business
PK> of the card issuer. This is probably a local requirement...

If you would continue "and exchange the card" I would have no problems
understanding or believing. But I have great difficulty in believing that, for
example Mastercharge and Visa (to name only two) have totally different systems
for each country: in the one, you must exchange the card for another to change
the ATM PIN, and in the other, this is not necessary.

RB>> Roy even continues to claim you can us an alphanumeric ATM PIN, which
RB>> I know is simply not true, since ATMs don't have alphabetic
RB>> keyboards.

PK> Consider that YOUR ATM's may be restricted in this manner, but others
PK> are not.........;-)

Consider the fact that alphanumeric ATM PINs - in which I still don't believe,
particularly not after reading Roy's definition (merely mnemonics derived from
phone dials) - would be useless in Germany. You would not be able to get money
from your accounht simply because there are no alphabetic keyboards on ATMs in
Germany. Not much sense in that.

RB>> As I asked Roy, I ask you: Put a photo of your ATM keyboard on the
RB>> Internet (I personally use Imageshack) and then maybe we'll get a
RB>> little clarity inbto this mess.

PK> I have not yet seen alphabetic ATM Keypads in use within NZ yet, BUT I
PK> did see a demonstration ATM that had standard numeric pads printed
PK> similar to Alphanumeric Telephone Pads. Once the ATM's went into use
PK> the pads were numeric only (I haven't seen that model ATM in quite a
PK> few years now). The capability may exist, but its not yet implemented
PK> here.

Which is the kind of thing Roy described, and is NOT alphanumeric, but simply a
mnemonic such as those common for phone numbers in the States. The actual
number you dial IS a number, not a letter.

Cheers, Bob

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