Text 3288, 105 rader
Skriven 2007-06-27 10:34:24 av David Drummond (3:640/305)
   Kommentar till text 3279 av Jeff Smith (1:14/5)
Ärende: Nipple slip
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Hello Jeff.

26 Jun 07 12:41, you wrote to me:

 DD>> Then that is your narrow minded attitude that has the problem,
 DD>> and not Björn's behaviour.


 JS>      Typical tactic David. Try to shift the blame to someone else.


ROFL - YOU have a problem discerning when Bjorn is wearing his moderator hat,
and when he is not. Most other participants do not appear to be having this
problem. You honestly believe that you have no part in this issue?


 JS>>>      I don't have a problem with him having personal negative
 JS>>> views of certain aspects of America, it's government, or even
 JS>>> certain groups within America. But I think it is unfair to
 JS>>> insult a country or it's people as a whole.

 DD>> Yes, he should do what the USAmericans have done and invade and
 DD>> kill many of the inhabitants!

 JS>      If you keep taking too much of that stuff it impair your thinking
 JS> processes. <g> Me thinks your train of thought has jumped the track
 JS> there david.

Sorry - watching too much USA originated news broadcasts - I'll try to refrain.


 JS>>> You have seen for yourself that Björn will go out of his way to
 JS>>> search for negative things to post about America. Again all in
 JS>>> the same echo that he is a moderator of. I'm sorry, but IMHO
 JS>>> that isn't a smart move for a moderator. At least not for one
 JS>>> that expects much of any respect or to be taken seriously.

 DD>> What respect are you speaking of? What is this fixation you have
 DD>> with "respect'?

 JS>      Thats simple there David. The respect that people will have for
 JS> someone that they see treats people all the same regardless of what
 JS> country they may come from, what religion they may be, or what
 JS> political views they may have.

When the US foreign policy can gain that respect, maybe som of us in the free
world will look to USA in a little more positive light.


 JS>  When people see that the moderator does
 JS> not push his personal views onto the users and doesn't let those same
 JS> personal views affect his duties as moderator they will respect that
 JS> fact. Even if they don't happen to agree with or even like the
 JS> moderator.

The moderator doesn't "push his personal views in this echo". Bjorn, the sysop
express his personal views, just as every other sysop does/has the right to.


 JS>  The problems arise when people feel and see from
 JS> the
 JS> moderator's own actions that how people are treated depends on where
 JS> they happen to live and if the moderator happens to like them. A
 JS> number of the so-called troublemakers here have stated that even
 JS> though they have made it clear that they do not like the moderator
 JS> they would abide by his moderations IF they could respect his fair
 JS> treatment of people.

"People" see and feel? Who are these people you speak of. So far it seems to be
only you that cannot tell when Bjorn is being a moderator, and when he is being
Bjorn the sysop.

[...]

 DD>> I didn't single out Americans, I singled out USAmericans. The
 DD>> rest of the Americans don't tend to present the amounts of
 DD>> chauvinistic propaganda here that the USAmericans do.

 JS>      Let me re-phrase that. Why group people together needlessly when
 JS> refering to a few or a single person? Why be so quick to lable people
 JS> and group them together to make some negative commemt?

It is ONLY USAmericans that push the chauvinist crap in these echoes. I call a
spade a spade!

[..]

 DD>> Go ahead, make my day.

 JS>      There is no need. If I were to have a problem with you I would
 JS> take it up with you as an individual and not bring your country into
 JS> the discussion at all.

Australia is NOT "my country", I just happen to live here. You can say what you
like about Australia, or New Zealand for that matter. If I think you are
incorrect I may tell you. I will not just tell you to not talk about
Australians/New Zealanders.

Remember freedom of speech?


David

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