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Skriven 2009-06-03 09:01:54 av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
  Kommentar till text 32982 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: Saberi vs Blom
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03 Jun 09 10:50, Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Roy Witt:

 MvdV>>> They were no more wrong than the court that convicted Menno Blom.

 RW>> She didn't actually violate any laws.

 MvdV> She violated the law, got convicted end senteced to eight years of
 MvdV> prison.

She didn't get 8 years for buying alcohol...she got 8 years on trumped up
charges that were dropped.

 RW>> He did. We've already been there, done that, he violated the law,
 RW>> got convicted, sentenced to two years in prison, went home a smarter
 RW>> person.

 MvdV> Same with saberi.

She didn't do more than a few months time.

 MvdV>>> In Iran it is against the law for a woman to attempt to buy
 MvdV>>> alcohol.

 RW>> And it is also illegal to sell it to women...

 MvdV> Non sequitur. No alcohol was sold. The accusation was *attempt* to
 MvdV> buy alcohol.

Wrong! She openly admitted that she bought a bottle of wine.

"She said that she had bought a bottle of wine and the person that sold it
had reported it and then they came and arrested her," her father said,
adding that the wine purchase was just an excuse to arrest her.

 MvdV>>> In Iran it is against the law to work as a reporter without
 MvdV>>> proper credentials.

 RW>> She had the credentials, which were revoked in 2006.

 MvdV> If they were revoked, she did not have them.

"National Public Radio, the US radio station for which Ms Saberi reported,
confirmed that Iran had revoked her press credentials but said that they
had tolerated her continuing to file short "on the spot" news stories."

 MvdV>>> Roxana Saberi was arrested and convicted for violating those
 MvdV>>> laws. All she had to do to avoid that was to stay in the US.

 RW>> That would be awfully hard, since she has been living in Iran for
 RW>> the last six years.

 MvdV> She was born in the US. All the reports speak about an "American
 MvdV> Journalist".

"Ms Saberi is the latest of several Iranian-Americans and other dual
nationals holding Iranian passports"

Maybe you should brush up on your knowledge of 'dual nationals'...

"Ms Saberi, who holds an Iranian passport in addition to her American one,
has lived in the Islamic republic for the past six years."

 MvdV>>> Same story, both were in violation of the country they visited.

 RW>> She wasn't a visitor, she is a resident, holds an Iranian passport
 RW>> and a US passport. Which isn't illegal.

 MvdV> The Iranian passport was only becuase of her Iranian father. Who
 MvdV> lives in he USA. For all intents and purposes she is American.

"Ms Saberi is the latest of several Iranian-Americans and other dual
nationals holding Iranian passports"

 MvdV> If you ask me  I'd say she was even more stupid than Blom.

Nobody could be stupider than Blom.

 MvdV> Blom fell into a trap.

Blom built his own trap...

 MvdV> Saberi could and should have known that iran is a VERY unfriendly
 MvdV> environment for a women. What on earht made het leave the USA to go
 MvdV> live in Iran and work as a journalist for an American news agancy?

Some people have a cause they must follow. Young Iranians who get a taste
of freedom will return to Iran to help out those in the country who also
have a cause. Young people are like that.

 MvdV> Not only is Iran womenunfriendly, it is also American unfriendly.
 MvdV> If you walk into a snake pit, don't complain if you get bitten.

I'd say you're sticking your nose where it doesn't belong. What she does
is none of your business.

 MvdV>>> With the difference that Roxana Seberi was not lured into
 MvdV>>> visiting Iran by entrapment.

 RW>> Neither was Blom.

 MvdV> Denial is not a river in Egypt.

You should know, you've been denying the facts ever since you learned
about how another stupid dutchman got himself into trouble.

 MvdV>>> She went on her own initiative.

 RW>> She lived there.

 MvdV> She was born in the USA.  She *went* to live there. Her own
 MvdV> decision.

She's now 31 years old, free to make such decisions 13 years ago...

 MvdV> She deserved to spent the full eight years in prison for that
 MvdV> stupidity.

Just as Blom deserved to be shot by firing squad for his stupidity.


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