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Skriven 2009-06-10 23:13:00 av Dale Shipp (1:261/1466.0)
     Kommentar till en text av Michiel Van Der Vlist
Ärende: Re: Saberi vs Blom
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 -=> On 06-10-09  10:06,  Michiel Van Der Vlist <=-
 -=> spoke to Dale Shipp about Saberi vs Blom <=-

 MVDV>> There was a trial and the evidence presented during that
 MVDV>> trial convinced the court that the accused was guilty.
 
 DS> How do you even know that there was any evidence?

 MVDV> Because that it what they do in court: present evidence.

Assumption -- it was a closed court.  Nothing other than the verdict was
published.  No outside witnesses were present.  No reporting on what
transpired.  And yet, you assume that someone presented evidence, and
you presume that it was sufficient.

 MVDV> I have not expressed a personal opinion on their guilt. 
 MVDV> What I say is that according to THEIR laws and THEIR court 
 MVDV> they were found guilty.

You presented it as a fact that was true.

 MVDV>> In the Blom case I was told I had to accept that, End of story.
 
 DS> You were told that after you were presented with evidence, evidence
 DS> you refused to accept

 MVDV> Evidence that I found insufficient.

And yet, you find the evidence in the North Korean case sufficient
enough to present the judgement as being legitimate?  Double standard on
your part.

 MVDV> "Break the law of the land, face the consequences"
 
 DS>  -- and you have never let it be "end of story".

 MVDV> That is because I do not blindly follow your orders.
 
I have given no orders.  I am merely pointing out your lack of
consistency.

 MVDV> Now that the shoe is on the other foot and US citizens are 
 MVDV> tried under North Korean law for breaking NK law, you start 
 MVDV> to protest.

I protested your double standard in describing the two cases.  I have
not and would not publicly give any opinion about the justice of
the decision in either case.

 MVDV> About the Blom case you wondered why I defended a child
 MVDV> molester. Now I ask you why you defend spies and illegal 
 MVDV> border crossers.

Your label, not mine. And the fact that you present it as true is yet
another way in which you are agreeing with the North Koreans.  They are
not known for their honesty and integrity.

                               Dale Shipp
                  fido_261_1466 (at) comcast (dot) net
                              (1:261/1466)


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