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Text 34470, 70 rader
Skriven 2009-07-13 16:52:08 av Lee Lofaso (3:800/432.0)
  Kommentar till text 34422 av Robert Bashe (2:2448/44)
Ärende: Steve McNair R.I.P.
===========================
Hello Bob,

>JS>But if you think about it Lee. The loaded gun wouldn't matter much
>JS>if there were not a crazy person using it.

>RB>Trouble is, it's easier to unload a gun - or make it harder to get -
>RB>than to eliminate crazies.

>JS>Does that solve the basic problem Robert? Yes, it's much easier to
>JS>make guns harder to get. The problem that still remains is that those
>JS>"Crazies" usually don't bother getting guns legally.

RB>That old, tired excuse. True, but it doesn't stand an in-
RB>depth analysis. The fact of the matter is that many (most?)
RB>crimes of violence are committed on the spur of the moment,
RB>with whatever comes to hand. In the States, that's often a
RB>gun. Elsewhere, it may be a knife, a hammer or a club. The
RB>gun is generally more deadly, though.

John Wayne has taught us well.

RB>Sure, you can't deter a determined criminal who's willing
RB>to wait and plan. But you can do a lot to avoid spontaneous,
RB>fatal violence.

Yes, we can.  But we won't.  Do you know why?  WE LOVE OUR GUNS!
Besides, everybody knows that guns do not kill people.  People do.
So please.  Do not blame our guns.  Our guns are innocent.

RB>But what's the use? I know I'm arguing against a religion,
RB>and the result will be lack of understanding at best and
RB>open animosity at worst (no real violence though, since I'm
RB>physically far away).

All praise, honor and glory to our beloved guns!  Let us worship
them forever and ever!  Hallelujah!

RB>Be that as it may, and although I personally know how to
RB>deal with guns and have owned quite a few throughout my
RB>life, I'm still happy to live in a place where not everyone
RB>has one at home or even worse on his/her person, and have
RB>never had to worry about whether my wife or son will get
RB>shot up at work or on the street, as I might well do if I
RB>were living in the States.

Mexico has very strict regulations in regards to gun ownership.
Yet Mexico is not a very safe place to be, as many Mexicans are
armed not only with handguns, but also assault weapons.  The
situation has gotten so bad in Mexico that neither the police
nor the army can control the violence.  Where do you think the
criminals are getting their guns (including assault weapons)
from?  You guessed it.  The good ol' U.S. of A.

There are criminals in Germany, as criminals exist in every
country in the world.  But how much more difficult is it for
criminals to get their hands on guns in Germany than in Mexico?
Unlike Mexico, Germany does not share a border with the USA.
But does that make a difference?  If so, then why is it that
Canada has such a low rate of gun violence?  Like Mexico, Canada
has very strict regulations in regards to gun ownership. Like
Mexico, Canada shares a border with the USA.  So why the gun
violence in Mexico but not in Canada?

--Lee


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