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Skriven 2009-08-24 15:34:17 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
     Kommentar till en text av Grant Taylor (108719.fidonews)
Ärende: Future of FidoNet
=========================
Hello Grant,

On Friday August 21 2009 21:36, you wrote to me:


 GT> Thank you for the archive.  Your article was another well written and
 GT> interesting read.

Thanks.

 GT> Currently our xLECs are not officially / publically doing any thing
 GT> with VoIP. Though many widh they would.

They may not advertise it, but that does not mean they do not use VOIP
techniques internally.

OTOH, they may indeed still run fully analog. North America has always been
ahead in many things, but it seems that regarding telecom, they run behind
Europe, and in Europe, The Netherlands is ahead of most other countries. Note
the The Netherlands was the second (after Switzerland) to fully automate the
telephone system. Now we are leading with broadband penetration. In fairness I
must add that The Netherlands is a densely populated country and distances are
short. That is of advantage when it comes to cost of infrastructure.

 GT> It has only been recently that we are seeing any thing with features
 GT> resembeling VoIP from the ILECs.  Even that is just a pricing point
 GT> for POTS service.

That is how it started here too. After the incumbents started losing customers
to Skype and other services.

 GT> It is almost impossible (or extremely impractical at $100+ a month) to
 GT> get digital residental phone service from the ILECs.  Much to my great
 GT> dismay.

ISDN has been around everywhere for well over a decade now. The price is just
under the price for two analog lines. For that you get 2 B channels. One B
channels is good for one voice channel or one 64 kbps data channel. Also you
get 4 to 8 telephone numbers that you can assign to various services. It was
really a very attractive deal for Fidonet sysops. They needed two lines anyway.
One for the voice line, one for the BBS.

I wrote "was", because ISDN is on the way out now that broadband is widely
available.

Hé, there is that 10 year life cycle again... ;-)

Anyway, I suspect we are seeing the effects of the Telcos switching to VOIP
internally. The last remaining POTS only node (2:280/1208) in our net is having
serious problems making modem connections since a month or two.


Cheers, Michiel

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