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Skriven 2009-09-02 13:25:00 av WAYNE CHIRNSIDE (1:123/140)
     Kommentar till en text av LEE LOFASO
Ärende: Universal health insuran
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-=> LEE LOFASO wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-


 >LL>The way it is designed folks have to go through hoops to benefit.

 WC>Well the health department is two blocks from here, they could certainly
 WC>certify my need for extra help.

 LL> It is not the criteria of need that counts.  One could be totally broke
 LL> and not be eligible.  Among the criteria is if the individual is living
 LL> alone or not.  If the individual is not living alone, then regardless
 LL> of income, he/she is not eligible for extra help.

Oh brother do I live alone.
Hope to change that soon though.

 WC>However I acknowledge getting help through government programs make
 WC>you jump through hoops.
 WC>Thus it was so when I attended Abilities of Florida for training
 WC>to go back to work.

 LL> There is no incentive for those with disabilities to go back to
 LL> work.  Even if they could, it would stupid for them to do so.  

Yes and yes. 
I am however a workaholic and perfectionist so Igave
it the good old college try.
A sixteen year old in a Suzuki Samarai put and end to my efforts.

 LL> For
 LL> example, one of my friends has muscular dystrophy.  She is dependent
 LL> on medications in order for her to be able to lead a somewhat
 LL> functional life.  SSI has been a godsend for her.  However, for her to
 LL> return to work, she would have to find a job paying a minimum of
 LL> $60,000 per year, just to get what she is getting now through SSI,
 LL> assuming an insurance company would pay for her medications.  Needless
 LL> to say, she chose to remain on SSI.  With a Masters in Social Work, had
 LL> she not had MS, she would have been able to make far more than whatever
 LL> SSI has paid her through the years, and the expense of medications
 LL> would not have a problem.  But it does not take someone with an MSW to
 LL> figure out the math.

 WC>Took me two years to jump the last hoop,

 LL> It's time to ditch the system we have now.  Past time.

 >LL>I'll spare the details, since you are already familiar with them.

 >WC>Yup, and a painfull and protracted experience it was understanding
 >WC>that legislation.

 >LL>Don't worry.  Obama will fix it.  :)

 WC>Not so sure of that, he's taking the bipartisan approach and that's wrong.

 LL> Nothing wrong to extend an olive branch and invite the opposition
 LL> to join you in finding solutions that work for the common good.  But
 LL> when that opposition chooses to do nothing but thumb its nose in your
 LL> face, refusing to offer any kind of a solution at all, it is time to
 LL> pull the plug on such offers of bipartisanship.  Especially when you
 LL> have the numbers to pass much needed legislation even without their
 LL> help.

Uh, there are some Democrats too on the list of big lobbiest money
takers, enough to easily defeat the supermajority.
We're talking big money too from hundreds of thousands to millions.
Crooksandliars listed some a few days back. 

This country is sunk until we eliminate such big money givaways
to politicians from the private sector.
Why do we even bother to pay them? 

Congress no longer serves us but rather the military industrial complex,
phamacutical industry, insurance industry and big oil.

There are a few honest holdouts but it's a minority.

 LL> You want to know who poisoned the waters of bipartisanship?
 LL> George "It's my way or the highway" W. Bush.  Well, the American
 LL> people showed Boy George what they thought of his eight years of
 LL> terror by electing a BLACK MAN as President of the United States.

Yeah that was a hoot,
George W. Bush was virtually campaigning for Obama though too
stupid to realise it.
The GOP knew as he was persona non grata at the Republican convention
and merely televised into the convention.

Only someone as stupid as Bush could have accomplished it.
I'd at first thought the Democrats had once again defeated
themselves when running a woman and a black man as candidates.

 LL> And that BLACK MAN did not need to go cry to any justices of the
 LL> United States Supreme Court to have them appoint him to a damned
 LL> thing.

That's a disgrace to the U.S., a total recount of Florida
was called for under existing Florida law.

Of course having the Supervisor of Florida elections Kathy
Harris his campaign manager and Jeb his brother Govenor
swung the equation from fair and legal to an illegal power grab.

Had a total recount taken place as required under the law Gore 
clearly won.

A cute side story on Katherine Harrass is she was actively promoting
Celestial Drops as a cure for Florida citrus growers citrus
canker, spend Florida taxpayers money to study them .lso

She was scammed by a con man, Celestial Drops turned out to be
plain tap water.

 WC>It should be modeled on Germany, Japan and France's health care
 WC>systems all of which provide better care than in the U.S. at lower costs.

 LL> I prefer the Australian system.  Remember, Australia went through
 LL> pretty much the same thing as what we are going through today.
 LL> Australia succeeded, and is not about to return to what they had
 LL> before.  Do you know the maximum amount of what an individual pays
 LL> for prescription medication is in Oz?  $15 per month.  Hell, I'd
 LL> go along with a max of $30 per month over here if that is what it
 LL> takes to get something passed.

 WC>Congress is *bought* by the lobbiests and the lobbiests
 WC>shall dictate the health care program.

 LL> "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism, since it
 LL> is the merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini

When you want the truth seek out an expert.
I'm with old Benito on that one, he's one who'd know.

 >WC>... Sarah Palin - The Dan Quayle of the twenty-first century.

Snip

 WC>Quayle is a founding member of PNAC and also suggested
 WC>nuking Vietnam back in the day.

 WC>Imagine the offspring Dan Quayle and Sarah Palin could produce ;-)

 LL> Children that glow in the dark?  :)

Surely nothing that bright.


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