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Skriven 2007-04-21 09:00:33 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
      Kommentar till text 5 av Jeff Smith (1:14/0)
Ärende: Shootings
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 BF>> Then explain why you need all those guns for.

 JS>      Well... I have three 12G's one for target shooting, one vintage 410
 JS> as a keepsake, and one for shooting slug rounds. I have a 20G which I
 JS> aquired from a relative. I have two 22's for small game hunting. I have a
 JS> 300W magnum and a 30.06 for medium and large game. Except for maybe the
 JS> 20G each gun has a intended use. A couple haven't been fired in years.

Obviously you have an interest in guns so naturally you defend the right to
have weapons.

 BF>> This is where you and I differ. You are brought up in it while I'm not. I
 BF>> don't see any reason for owning any gun what so ever unless I'm a hunter
 BF>> and then a hunting rifle is OK but having a dozen or so and three
 BF>> handguns...... Just because it's legal to have a weapon no one says that
 BF>> you *have* to have any. In Germany there is no speed limit on some
 BF>> autobahns but nothing says that I *have* to drive at 150 mph.

 JS>      I have no problem with someone that doesn't believe in the need for
 JS> guns. They are one of those things that along with their use comes the
 JS> responsibility for their safe use.

Like the guy at Johnson Space Center yesterday.......?
Killed one and then himself. This will never end and you know it as long as
nothing is done about it and then you complain about all this death.

 JS> Just like guns here you have the option
 JS> of driving 150mph and risk killing yourself or someone else. You are smart
 JS> enough to drive your vehicle responsibly even though you have a legal
 JS> right to drive faster. I have the legal right to own a gun(s) but try to
 JS> use those guns in a responsible way.

The places in Germany where it's allowed to drive at 150 is reducing because
they see that none is surviving accidents at that speed.
Perhaps something for you to take after since not many survive a gun-shot
either.

 BF>> You know what I mean.....healty today but who knows what will happend
 BF>> tomorrow. A neighbours SIL was perfectly OK untill he got a tree over
 BF>> himself and hurt his head and today he's having trouble with fixing the
 BF>> day.

 JS>      I could have a stroke tonight and become a drooling fool by morning.
 JS> If
 JS> we start outlawing things and enacting new laws to try to control and/or
 JS> prevent what might happen or what someone might do things would be alot
 JS> worse than they are now.

You are as extreme as Ross, if it isn't possible to outlaw it then you legalize
it.
You just have to start somewhere to do something about and if you don't, then
you have to live with things like this so why do you complain?

 JS>>>      A drink or two? Chug a jug of Jack Danials and then we will
 JS>>> talk.

 BF>> If I want to drink catpiss I have to cats.

 JS>      Nah... Too tart for my pallet. <g>

And the difference between catpiss and Jack Daniels is......?

 BF>> Had a small 18 yo. Highland Park yesterday.....

 JS>      I had a 18 Yo once. Many, many years ago. Umm... nevermind.

The 18 yo Glenfidddich doesn't taste like catpiss either.

 BF>> Or that someone are offending your daughter or that she has been raped.
 BF>> Wouldn't you feel like getting back on him. Taking a few drinks and a gun
 BF>> to show him what you think of him?

 JS>     In that scenario I wouldn't need a gun to show him what I thought
 JS> of him. Again guns would be an option for me. I am more of a face to face
 JS> guy. To be honest I wouldn't be above putting some major hurt upon the guy
 JS> but don't think I would go to the point of killing him. He can pay/suffer
 JS> for his actions longer if he is still alive.

Not everyone are as stabil as you at the moment and them I'm thinking of
Johnson
Space again.....

 BF>> If it's outlawed it means that not even the bad guys are going to have
 BF>> weapons

 JS>     Since when do the bad guys care about the law or what they are not
 JS> supposed to have?

You have to take that up with your police.

 JS>>>      Around here if there is reason to believe that someone has a
 JS>>> history of mental instability they are denied a permit to purchase a
 JS>>> handgun. A seperate permit is required to carry the handgun on your
 JS>>> person in public.

 BF>> Reason to believe.....see what happend in VA. He had been acting strange
 BF>> for a long time and had threatned girls before but nontheless, he had two
 BF>> guns.....

 JS>      Then the system failed him. Guns are going to be obtainable
 JS> regardless
 JS> of their legal status. If the system had dealt with him as it should have
 JS> the availability of guns wouldn't been a issue.

As the system failed at Johnson Space Center. Seems as your systems isn't
worth much, anywhere.

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