Text 4463, 128 rader
Skriven 2007-07-15 19:35:50 av Björn Forsström (2:203/614.61)
   Kommentar till text 4418 av Ross Cassell (1:123/456)
Ärende: CIA's Family Jewels
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 RC>>> Remember your ways are different, all it takes is a successful
 RC>>> no-confidence vote and you all are in full election mode.

 BF>> Eh....?

 RC> Your parliamentary system provides a means for the govt to dissolve
 RC> itself, thus forcing new elections, does it not?

Yyyyess, I think so but what's that got to do with it?

 RC>>> But I dont disagree that our populace suffers from alot of voter apathy,
 RC>>> but you see Björn voting is a right and a civic duty, but it is still up
 RC>>> to the individual to exercise. As with any right, one can choose to
 RC>>> wield it or not to wield it.

 BF>> You seem to lack much of civic duty as well.

 RC> I vote..

 RC> I obey the laws, respect my neighbors and I serve jury duty when called
 RC> upon, so how do you figure?

How can a native English speaker like you do the mistake to not understand
when I mean plural "you" or is it something I do wrong?

 RC>>> The fact is, those that choose not to vote are ceding their choices to
 RC>>> those whom do vote..

 RC>>> Even with your populace, 3 out of every 10 people were letting the other
 RC>>> 7 decide for them. That type of apathy isnt as bad as ours but it isnt
 RC>>> ideal either, in a perfect world, there wouldnt be any.

 BF>> Why do you look down on those who are better than you?

 RC> If you are going to debate like this, then I guess I am looking down at
 RC> you, but you certainly are not better than I.

This I've learned from you, as in you Americans.

 RC>>> Fact remains, I can encourage my neighbors and co-workers to exercise
 RC>>> their right to vote, but I nor the govt can force them to.

 BF>> But you can force them to get killed in Iraq for something they didn't
 BF>> vote for.

 RC> Excuse me. how am I forcing that?

Sigh. You as in you Americans.

 RC> I am no more guilty for that than one of your relatives from centuries
 RC> back for Swedish agression against Russia.

What do you mean with "your relatives"? As in my personal relatives or as
in the people of Sweden?
You see, I have to ask so there isn't any misunderstanding here.

 RC> Are you going to travel to France and blame a frenchmans ancestors for
 RC> Napoleon?

Do you, as personal you, mean you as a person or you as the Swedish people?

 RC> Felten has German blood, go ahead and blame his ancestors for Hitler and
 RC> the Keiser.

As you, in you personal, know, GWB:s ancestor comes from Sweden so blaim
us for the Iraq war too.

 RC> Heck using your logic, I could blame you for your Viking Ancestry, for the
 RC> atrocities they committed.

Wonder if this is leading to a point anytime soon......
What have this to do with your, as in American, children getting killed in Iraq
today?

 RC>>> I try not to watch left wing propoganda.

 BF>> But watching rigt wing propaganda is Ok? Is this the same kind of

 RC> Who says I watch any propoganda??

From where do you, as in you personal, get all your funny stuff then?

 RC> I dont even watch the local news on TV..

Ahhhh.....that's why you, as in you personal, have missed that your, as in
American, children are killed and injured in Iraq.
Perhaps you, as in you personal, should turn it on and see what it looks like
out
here in the free world and what's going on in Iraq. It's a bloody mess I can
tell
you and it was very interesting to see how much the docs can do and that they
have more sofisticated equiptment here in Europe then they have back home
in the US.

 RC> I use a program called Newscrawler, its a RSS/ATOM feed aggregator, I pull
 RC> news in from several sources off of the web and get my news that way.
 RC> Newscrawler is payware, but there are free versions out there. You can
 RC> even use Moz Tbird! I liked newcrawler because it has a ticker that it
 RC> places on my screen, that scrolls the headlines. It goes out and checks
 RC> for new articles every 5 min.

Ask them to put up some videos for you to see the bloody mess from the
hospitals
in Iraq. I can tell you it isn't a pretty sight.

 RC> But noooo.. you and Felten, when you both have lost a debate, do this
 RC> projecting thing, and claim everyone over here watches Fox News or must be
 RC> a bible thumper.. I pity you both.

Uhhh.....Where in the above have I mentioned Fox News?

 RC> Sad thing is, both you and Felten hold dominion over no one, therefore you
 RC> both havent any say over where one chooses to get their news from, now put
 RC> that in your pipe and smoke it!

Hey....are you, as in you personal, feeling that you are loosing this so you
have to
use that kind of language?

And I notice that you, as in you personal, deleted my question about how you
would
feel if you had lost a son or a daughter in Iraq.
Was that question too difficult to answer?
My answer would be that I would feel terrible and I would blaim it on the govt.

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