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Skriven 2007-07-20 05:15:33 av Björn Felten (2:203/2)
   Kommentar till text 4704 av Ross Cassell (1:123/456)
Ärende: FidoNews 24:29 [02/06]: General Articles
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 RC> Our Generals in WW2 were young officers in WW1 and before..

   Yeah, well, if you say so. My impression from various interesting History
Channel shows seem to indicate otherwise, but you're closer to the horse's
mouth than I am so who am I to dispute your experteese?

 RC> Good grief, we were in a economic depression,

   Yes you were. And it seems like almost not a single living USAian today can
realize that the only reason you got out of it was that the Brits had to ship
all their gold to you in order to pay for all the overpriced war hardware
needed to fight off the Nazis.

 RC> Remember our military wasnt anything to be afraid of either,

   Yes I know, Ross. And I will never take a swipe at any of the people not
even born by then, just to make a funny point about that, that I can assure
you! Unlike some... :(

 RC> That patriotism thing you all detest,

   Ah yes, that stupid obsession that can even make women send their kids to be
killed just because some politicians have a disagreement. I think we know all
about it, and I also think that the majority in this exceptionally fine echo
finds it remarkable that 21st century people can fall for this hype even as we
speak.

 BF>>    Possible. But if so, most likely as an "equal partner" and not as a
 BF>> piece of conquered territory.

 RC> Be glad that didnt come to fruition, there eventually could have been a
 RC> east sweden and a west one..

   Now you're really confusing matters. The East/West conflict is totally the
result of US politics. Remember that Churchill warned you about Stalin, but FDR
didn't want to hear anything like that -- he almost worshipped good old Uncle
Josef. Had he not been so na‹ve we most likely would have had a completely
different world by now.

 RC> Neither did the Dutch, they didnt collaborate.

   That was their choice by then. I'd say that Sweden's decision was the best
one if you consider the consequences for the citizens. But that's my humble
opinion -- maybe you can get an alternate one if you ask politely (if you know
how-to).

 RC> Be that as it may, Sweden should have told Hitler to go fuck himself.

   Yes, that would have made a world of difference, wouldn't it? Let me remind
you that NF did just that, and what good did that do?

   It's so easy to stand up many years later and tell everybody how they should
have acted. So many years later you weren't even born by the time the decisions
was taken.

   With hind-sight vision 20-20 I could too tell the Swedish government exactly
how they should act. Just as Kirk Douglas knew how to act in that movie "The
Final Countdown" that we just talked about.

 RC> The USA cannot enter into a legally binding treaty with a foreign state
 RC> w/o Congressional Approval.

   But you can invade a sovereign state without said approval? Forgive me if I
detect yet another case of double standard and/or hypocrisy here...



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