Text 5161, 91 rader
Skriven 2007-08-05 18:52:18 av David Drummond (3:640/305)
   Kommentar till text 5150 av Jeff Smith (1:14/5)
Ärende: Sad Day in Minneapolis
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Jeff Smith -> David Drummond wrote:

 JS>>>      Yes my post was off-topic as are most if not all of yours.
 JS>>> And no, we are not alone in that regard. And yes I have ceased
 JS>>> further posts on the thread.

 DD>> But still you post off-topic messages.

 JS>      As do you, as does most everyone here. Why is that David?

Because nobody thinks it important to post only on-topic messages. If no-one
posted the off topic messages we would have no messages. Would you rather see
the echo unused jut so no off topic messages were posted?

 JS> Why are we allowed to continually post messages that are off-topic?

Because we want to. We are adults here, not children, we don't have to be
allowed to do things - we make the decisions ourselves about what to do, and
what not to do. If you don't want to see off-topic message, don't post them.

You could move your reading elsewhere and abandon this echo that has evolved
beyond the original out-of-date rules.

 JS> Why do you comment about some people's off-topic message and ignore
others?

I comment on those off topic messages that complain about the off topic
messages.

 JS> Shouldn't the same rules be applied to all equally?

They are - all are free to moderate themselves as they see fit.

 JS> Why are some rules seemingly optional?

All rules are optional - in all things. We all choose to obey or ignore the
rules as we see fit.
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 DD>> Björn isn't the one publicly bitching about off topics posts - then
 DD>> constantly posting off topic messages.

 JS>      Thats the point David. Felten isn't bitching about anyone's off-topic
 JS> posts.

How do you know? Do you have hooks into his netmail folder?

 JS> In fact he is making as many of the same off-topic posts as you or
 JS> I. That is why I have stated that the rules that HE as moderator posts and
 JS> in doing so I would only assume that he expects that they be followed are
 JS> meaningless. They shouldn't be but Felten's lack of caring has made them
 JS> a joke to be ignored instead of abided by.

And the problem with that is? If every considers the rules a joke, then they
are a joke. If everyone is ignoring them, then those rules no longer matter.

 JS>>> Which is obviously a rehtorical question as the rules are
 JS>>> clearly NOT applied to people equally or fairly.

 DD>> Who is not applying them fairly? You? You seem to be the one bitching
 DD>> about them all of the time in off topic messages. The moderator is
 DD>> still moderating in the privacy of netmail.

 JS>      Ahh yes the privacy of netmail. Looks to be working REAL well doesn't
 JS> it? What were you saying again about the multitude of off-topic posts?

Obviously those that have been written to by the moderator have chosen to
ignore his requests. That is their decision.

 JS> Who in this echo is in your opinion guilty of making off-topic posts?
 JS> Beyond you and me of course.

Obviously it is virtually every poster here - which reinforces my claim that
the current laws are worthless and should be repealed. A rule that everyone
ignores is a bad rule.

Of course, the moderator claims that we are not breaking the rules, he claims
that there is enough leeway there-in to cover the current message topics.

As the moderator is judge and jury (but not executioner) it is his
interpretation that matters. If you don't like it, you're free to take your
meaningful messages elsewhere.

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regards

David

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