Text 6240, 127 rader
Skriven 2007-09-18 12:12:14 av Roy Witt (1:397/22)
   Kommentar till text 6104 av Daniel Prather (418.fidonews)
Ärende: Global Warming
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16 Sep 07 18:41, Daniel Prather wrote to Roy Witt:

 DP>   Re: Global Warming
 DP>   By: Roy Witt to Daniel Prather on Sun Sep 16 2007 04:39 pm

 >> Which is not a fact, just an unproven theory.

 DP> Ice isn't ice if the temperature is too high.

Ice has been ice for millinium. It also was no longer ice when it melted.

 DP>   If the global temperature is higher than the temperature necessary
 DP> to keep the ice caps ice, then they melt. That's not a terribly
 DP> difficult thing to figure out.

Fortunately. you got that part right.

 DP> Also, just to keep the discussion interesting, the Northwest Passage
 DP> is completely open for the first time in recorded history.

That's good.

 >> Have it your way. Personally, I'd let them be and see what course they
 >> take, sitting on a chunk of ice and wondering how far it is to shore,
 >> or taking a hike and actually heading for shore before they're caught
 >> on the ocean without a paddle. (of course, they may be following the
 >> penguins and seals.

 DP> They might turn out just fine, but I'd imagine they won't.

That's imagination for ya.

 DP> Considering the number of species that have been driven to extinction
 DP> since we started messing with everything, I'd say the odds aren't in
 DP> their favor.

Mother nature says that's the way the cookie crumbles. "Only the strong
survive."

 >> LOL! They're bears which have adapted to forraging for food on the ice
 >> because their prey is also on the ice or in the icy water. If the ice
 >> melts, the prey will undoubtably head inland where the bear will
 >> follow.

 DP> I'm assuming you don't understand evolution.

I'm assuming that you don't either.

 DP> It doesn't happen in the course of a few years,

Like global warming does?

 DP> but over many thousands of years.  If the ice caps are sufficiently
 DP> melted within the next 100 years, I don't think anything is going to
 DP> be able to adapt to live without them that quickly.

You under-estimate mother nature.

 DP> But, I also don't see the need to "test" every species on Earth with
 DP> whatever we can throw at them, just to see if they can survive or
 DP> not. That doesn't seem like the best course of action if you don't
 DP> want to be alone on the planet.

LOL! Like we've had anything to do with it.

 >> Sun warms up, Mercury and Venus experience global warming, earth
 >> follows suit. I'd say y'all had a case if the sun and both of the
 >> inner planets weren't heating up as well. Sun - Mercury - Venus -
 >> Earth -> Mars - etc..

 DP> So also Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto?

That would depend on how hot the sun gets...heat is only radiated so far
before the natural coldness of space cools it off. Did you ever notice
that after sun-down, the earth cools down?

 DP> What about all of their moons, and other objects in the solar system
 DP> (asteroids, etc.)?

See above.

 DP> There is sufficient evidence that their changes in temperature
 DP> are attributable to nothing but solar intensity,

Not quite...internal heat keeps them warm.

 DP>  and to also explain away all temperature changes on Earth in the
 DP> process?

Proximity...earth is closer to the heat source, Mars and the rest are
further away. Tell us how you figure the sun is heating up the frozen moon
of Jupiter and not the one that is volcanic?

 >> Not as readily as the three planets that are heating up. Pluto
 >> receives sunlight, but it isn't in the inner circle of planets that
 >> are experiencing warming climates.

 DP> But it should all be proportional.

Sure, if they were all within the heat range of the sun's radiation. Most
aren't.

 DP> If the Sun's activity has increased by some percentage, then all
 DP> bodies in the solar system should be able to show a proportional
 DP> increase in temperature (or at least in their reception of the solar
 DP> radiation).

If you say so. Provide a source to prove that theory.

 DP> That piece of the puzzle is absolutely criticial for determining
 DP> whether or not Earth's temperature increases are caused by the Sun or
 DP> by other factors. It's not impossible that increased activity by the
 DP> Sun isn't responsible for *some* change on Earth, but that the effect
 DP> is amplified by the levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.

Which, incidentally, aren't as bad as you think. Just wait until earth
provides more of it, as the ice melts. Instead of a global warming, we'll
have another ice age.

                R\%/itt


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