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Skriven 2007-09-21 15:39:14 av Jeff Smith (1:14/5)
   Kommentar till text 6477 av Michiel van der Vlist (2:280/5555)
Ärende: FidoNews 24:38 [02/06]: Editorial
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Hello Michiel.

21 Sep 07 19:10, you wrote to me:

 MV> Hello Jeff,

 MV> On Thursday September 20 2007 21:49, you wrote to Björn Felten:

 JS>>    Out of those messages I posted how many times did I stick my
 JS>> nose into any Z2 issues? Let me make it easy for you Björn. None.

 MV> Out of all the messages I posted in Z1C, how many times did I stick my
 MV> nose into any Z1 issues?

     Don't know and therefore am not suggesting that you either did
or didn't. As I have stated in Z1C I haven't made any statements there
that I haven't already made here or elsewhere or directly to the person
that may have been involved.

    The concept of a restricted echo doesn't bother me. And I would
have taken no offense at being denied access to the eNeT.sYsOp echo. I
also would not have used my denial of access as a ploy to further the
zonal conflict as some are presently doing. How long have the two echos
in question been in existence? Restricted, semi-restricted, read-only,
or some combination thereof. In a limited access atmosphere people are
often somewhat more relaxed and more prone to offering their ideas and
opinions. BUT, one has to be watchful not to let thyself fall into a
situation where one's attitude or opinion changes based on where they
are offering it.


 JS>>    Now the question remains. Does that respect go both ways here
 JS>> Björn or is this just another one-way thing?

 MV> How can the respect go both ways if the others are never even given
 MV> the chance to prove they can behave as a good guest?

     It isn't the PROOF that is necessary. It is the willingness to prove
that is more important. Were you insulted or offended when you were denied
access to Z1C?

     I think work needs to be done to help eliminate the feeling that we
need restricted access to this or that. But we are talking about dealing
with the hardest thing to change. The human attitude.


 MV> Cheers, Michiel

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Jeff

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